Policy Oct 08 2025

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SPEAKER_02: Okay, good evening and welcome to the policy committee

SPEAKER_02: and special board meeting of October 8, 2025.

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SPEAKER_02: Chief Legal Officer, please conduct the roll call.

SPEAKER_02: Director Kurth.

SPEAKER_12: Director Herber.

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SPEAKER_02: Okay, so Brandon Rose is online.

SPEAKER_02: Participating remotely.

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SPEAKER_04: I'm online.

SPEAKER_02: Oh great.

SPEAKER_02: Welcome, Brandon.

SPEAKER_02: Excellent.

SPEAKER_02: So number, agenda item one on tonight's agenda

SPEAKER_02: is to discuss the monitoring report

SPEAKER_02: for strategic directive six on safety leadership.

SPEAKER_02: And that item will be presented by Emily Bachini,

SPEAKER_02: Interim Director of Environmental Safety

SPEAKER_02: and Real Estate Services, welcome Emily.

SPEAKER_02: Great, thank you.

SPEAKER_05: Good evening, my name is Emily Bachini

SPEAKER_05: and I'm the Interim Director of the Environmental Safety

SPEAKER_05: and Real Estate Services team.

SPEAKER_05: And I'm happy to be here tonight to share with you

SPEAKER_05: our strategic directive six,

SPEAKER_05: or SD6 monitoring report for the first half of 2025.

SPEAKER_05: Our strategic directive six was last updated

SPEAKER_05: in April of 2021 and that identified five safety objectives

SPEAKER_05: for workplace contractor and public safety.

Unknown: While any workplace accident is unacceptable,

SPEAKER_05: we currently have a goal of 13 severe safety incidents

SPEAKER_05: or less by this year.

SPEAKER_05: Those are days away restricted time or DART incidents.

Unknown: Additionally, we want to ensure our employees

SPEAKER_05: are receiving quality care so that they can return to work

SPEAKER_05: if they are injured.

Unknown: As we continue to work with contractors

SPEAKER_05: to support our high risk work,

Unknown: we want to make sure they have the support needed

SPEAKER_05: to reduce and eliminate potential hazards

SPEAKER_05: for serious injuries or fatalities.

SPEAKER_05: And we focus on tracking public safety events

SPEAKER_05: and injuries that result from our operations or facilities

Unknown: and look to find measures to reduce those incidents

SPEAKER_05: and injuries.

SPEAKER_05: As I mentioned on the previous slide,

SPEAKER_05: our goal for 2025 is to have no more than 13 injuries

SPEAKER_05: or incidents that result in days away or restricted time.

SPEAKER_05: And we're currently on target to meet that goal.

SPEAKER_05: We had seven DARTs in the first half of 2025,

SPEAKER_05: along with nine other OSHA recordables.

SPEAKER_05: Our DART rate is 0.62.

SPEAKER_05: The utility industry standard is 1.0.

SPEAKER_05: That number captures the amount of time someone is away

SPEAKER_05: from their normal work as a result of their incident

SPEAKER_05: compared to the total number of hours worked.

SPEAKER_05: In reviewing our DARTs,

SPEAKER_05: we found that one was a non-preventable incident

SPEAKER_05: related to a vehicle accident

SPEAKER_05: that resulted in restricted work activities.

SPEAKER_05: And then four of those cases were related

SPEAKER_05: to slips, trips, and falls.

SPEAKER_05: Staff reviewed data for the last 10 years

SPEAKER_05: to have an understanding of or take a look

SPEAKER_05: for patterns that might be available.

SPEAKER_05: And what we found was that our DARTs doubled in Q3.

SPEAKER_05: So we had twice as many DARTs typically in the third quarter

SPEAKER_05: than we did in the first, second, or fourth quarters.

SPEAKER_05: So we took a really proactive approach

SPEAKER_05: to reduce that from happening this last year,

SPEAKER_05: working with our field forces

SPEAKER_05: to increase awareness of the trend and remind staff

SPEAKER_05: to take care of each other when they're doing their work,

SPEAKER_05: to not get complacent,

SPEAKER_05: to be mindful of external distractions,

SPEAKER_05: ensure that they're fit for duty when they arrive at work,

Unknown: and they're right in obligation to stop work

SPEAKER_05: when conditions change or hazard presents itself.

SPEAKER_05: And then we also continued messaging in Q3

SPEAKER_05: around slips, trips, and falls.

SPEAKER_05: And we only had three incidents in Q3 this last year.

SPEAKER_05: So again, we're on target to meet the goal

SPEAKER_05: by the end of the year.

SPEAKER_05: Our safety team partners

SPEAKER_05: with the Integrated Disability Management, or IDM,

SPEAKER_05: to ensure that quality care is provided to our employees

SPEAKER_05: if they are injured.

SPEAKER_05: In 2025, we transitioned to a new telemed service

SPEAKER_05: that allows employees to get triage support 24 hours a day,

SPEAKER_05: seven days a week.

SPEAKER_05: SMUD continues to have a reduction in indemnity benefits

SPEAKER_05: over the last five years, as shown here in this table.

SPEAKER_05: While the number of claims

SPEAKER_05: and injury frequency rates have increased,

SPEAKER_05: our rates per $100 of payroll has decreased.

SPEAKER_05: This points to a variety of factors, including the injuries.

SPEAKER_05: Excuse me.

SPEAKER_08: Can you just explain what that means, rates per 100 payroll?

Unknown: Sure.

Unknown: So that's the amount we pay per $100 of payroll.

Unknown: How else can I explain that?

Unknown: This is a number that comes from an independent actuary,

SPEAKER_05: and it's a formula that's built into

Unknown: integrated disability management programs.

SPEAKER_05: I can get you some additional information

SPEAKER_05: around how that number specifically is calculated.

Unknown: But what it means, if I understand it,

SPEAKER_02: it's 50 cents for every $100 of payroll they get paid.

SPEAKER_05: That's correct.

SPEAKER_05: That's how much we spend on our workers comp program.

SPEAKER_08: Thank you.

SPEAKER_05: Thanks, Heidi.

SPEAKER_05: Director Samborn.

Unknown: So this points to a variety of factors,

SPEAKER_05: including that our injuries employees experience

SPEAKER_05: are less severe than previously,

SPEAKER_05: and that they're able to return to work sooner

SPEAKER_05: if they are injured on the job.

SPEAKER_05: SMUD continues to use the International Supplies Net World

SPEAKER_05: to evaluate the safety records of our,

SPEAKER_05: and performance for our high-risk contractors.

SPEAKER_05: The evaluation focuses on contractor fatality history,

SPEAKER_05: OSHA citation history, DART,

SPEAKER_05: and total recordable incident rates,

SPEAKER_05: safety culture questions, and safety program review.

SPEAKER_05: And we currently have 160 contractors in the ISN system.

SPEAKER_05: We continue to conduct site visit evaluations

SPEAKER_05: of those high-risk contractors

SPEAKER_05: to validate their safety performance on job sites.

SPEAKER_05: The safety team completed 231 site visits

SPEAKER_05: in the first half of the year,

SPEAKER_05: which puts us well on target to exceed our goal

SPEAKER_05: of 250 for the year.

Unknown: And these site visits focus on SMUD contractors

SPEAKER_05: who work with power generation, line, substation,

SPEAKER_05: facilities, vegetation management,

SPEAKER_05: and environmental services,

SPEAKER_05: doing high-risk work such as high-voltage work,

SPEAKER_05: working at heights, and vegetation management.

SPEAKER_05: In the public safety space, our public safety team,

SPEAKER_05: attends a variety of public safety events in the communities,

SPEAKER_05: as shown here on the slide.

SPEAKER_05: Additionally, we track our public safety statistics,

SPEAKER_05: including asset collisions, electoral contacts,

SPEAKER_05: and dig-ins, and other injuries to the public

SPEAKER_05: that are related to our operation and facilities.

SPEAKER_05: In the first half of 2025,

SPEAKER_05: we had 125 asset collision incidents,

SPEAKER_05: one of which resulted in a fatality.

SPEAKER_05: We had three electrical contacts with no reported injuries,

SPEAKER_05: and 40 dig-ins with no reported injuries.

SPEAKER_05: After a dig-in, is there a question?

SPEAKER_05: Excuse me, I'm sorry, I'm just really interested

SPEAKER_08: in the safety stuff.

SPEAKER_08: What would you say the collision incidents were related to?

SPEAKER_08: Were those mostly cars backing into other cars

SPEAKER_08: or things like that?

SPEAKER_05: They're mostly cars or vehicles driving into our poles

SPEAKER_05: or our pad-mounted transformers.

Unknown: Thank you.

SPEAKER_02: So it's mostly not us?

SPEAKER_02: Correct, it's not us.

SPEAKER_02: Right, which is why we put up billboards

SPEAKER_02: and tell people, please don't run into our poles

SPEAKER_02: and hurt yourself.

SPEAKER_02: Because truly, it's really sad.

SPEAKER_02: We lose six people a year

SPEAKER_02: because they literally run into our stationary poles

SPEAKER_02: and knock out power, and that's pretty much

SPEAKER_02: the number one reason we lose power here.

SPEAKER_02: Does cause a lot of our attitudes.

SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so it's a very serious issue.

SPEAKER_02: Get people to pay attention to driving.

Unknown: And then on this last slide,

SPEAKER_05: there's a lot of information here

SPEAKER_05: around our safety for life programs.

SPEAKER_05: I'm not gonna talk about all of them,

SPEAKER_05: but I wanna touch on a few.

SPEAKER_05: First, our learning culture.

SPEAKER_05: We encourage continuous learning

SPEAKER_05: from our incidents and our near misses,

SPEAKER_05: which strengthens our organizational resilience

SPEAKER_05: as we are able to provide mitigation

SPEAKER_05: and adaptability in changing environments.

SPEAKER_05: This culture increases engagement and accountability

SPEAKER_05: by empowering employees to speak up,

SPEAKER_05: share their insights, and take ownership of safety.

SPEAKER_05: They foster a culture of trust, transparency,

SPEAKER_05: and shared responsibility.

SPEAKER_05: In the field ergonomic space,

SPEAKER_05: our initiatives include ergonomic assessments

SPEAKER_05: and workstation enhancements at key sites,

SPEAKER_05: including our El Rio substation.

SPEAKER_05: This demonstrates forward thinking approaches

SPEAKER_05: to identify and reducing risks for workplace

SPEAKER_05: musculoskeletal disorders before those injuries occur.

SPEAKER_05: These efforts reflect our commitment

SPEAKER_05: to proactive safety cultures and sustainable workforce,

SPEAKER_05: directly supporting strategic goals

SPEAKER_05: around operational excellence,

SPEAKER_05: employee engagement, and long-term injury prevention.

SPEAKER_05: And then last but not least, in our scorch arena,

SPEAKER_05: the safely conducted observations reduce common hazards.

SPEAKER_05: We had over 2,500 office observations

SPEAKER_05: and 1,300 field observations

SPEAKER_05: to identify top-risk safe and at-risk behaviors.

SPEAKER_05: Increased awareness helps reduce

SPEAKER_05: the future at-risk behaviors from occurring.

SPEAKER_05: And that concludes my presentation,

SPEAKER_05: and I'm willing to take any other questions.

SPEAKER_02: Thank you very much, Emily, and I just wanna thank all the

SPEAKER_02: staff who are working so hard to make safety

SPEAKER_02: a top priority at SMUD.

SPEAKER_02: I was just walking down the stairs from the garage,

SPEAKER_02: noticed a new sign about make sure you hold the handrail

SPEAKER_02: and just not focus on your cup of coffee

SPEAKER_02: and drinking that while you're stumbling down the stairs,

SPEAKER_02: because trip falls actually are a thing.

SPEAKER_02: So I think we're doing a really good job,

SPEAKER_02: and thank you very much.

SPEAKER_02: Did you have anything you have anything?

SPEAKER_08: I would just like to say that I also think

SPEAKER_08: you and your team are doing a good job.

SPEAKER_08: When I worked here at SMUD, people always said,

SPEAKER_08: safety comes first, safety comes first, and it does.

SPEAKER_08: So thank you for putting the power behind those words.

SPEAKER_02: Certainly, thank you.

SPEAKER_02: Other board members wanna comment online?

SPEAKER_02: No, okay.

SPEAKER_02: Well then thank you very much,

SPEAKER_02: and this will go in our consent item agenda.

SPEAKER_02: And do we have any public comment?

SPEAKER_02: No, we do not.

SPEAKER_02: Okay, I don't see anybody in the room,

SPEAKER_02: so we'll go ahead and move on then to agenda item two,

SPEAKER_02: which is to discuss the monitoring report

SPEAKER_02: for Strategic Directive 10 on innovation.

SPEAKER_02: This is always a very fun one to hear

SPEAKER_02: from our amazing James Frazier,

SPEAKER_02: who's Director of Research and Development,

SPEAKER_02: Grants and Partnerships.

SPEAKER_02: Welcome, James.

SPEAKER_00: All right, thank you so much.

SPEAKER_00: I really appreciate the kind welcome,

SPEAKER_00: and appreciate the opportunity to speak to SD 10,

SPEAKER_00: our Innovation Directive.

SPEAKER_00: This is actually my third year reporting on SD 10,

SPEAKER_00: and it's one that I really, really enjoy talking about.

SPEAKER_00: One of the things that really resonates with me,

SPEAKER_00: and I find most inspiring,

SPEAKER_00: is the places that we find innovation at SMUD.

SPEAKER_00: We look at research and development

SPEAKER_00: as being kind of the leading point of innovation,

SPEAKER_00: and while that is the case,

SPEAKER_00: we now find ourselves in a spot where

SPEAKER_00: our research and development engineers and planners

SPEAKER_00: and even interns are actually sitting

SPEAKER_00: at the operating desk side by side with the grid operators.

SPEAKER_00: They're sitting at the energy trading desk

SPEAKER_00: understanding how we're integrating

SPEAKER_00: renewable energy resources,

SPEAKER_00: and how we're thinking about tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00: So we have those thinkers that are on the horizon,

SPEAKER_00: but we've brought them side by side

SPEAKER_00: with the people that are in the seats,

SPEAKER_00: doing the jobs, keeping the lights on,

SPEAKER_00: prioritizing affordability.

SPEAKER_00: One of the sentences that resonates with me

SPEAKER_00: in the actual direction is delivering

SPEAKER_00: innovative solutions, products,

SPEAKER_00: and services to our customers.

SPEAKER_00: We're not generating reports and concepts

SPEAKER_00: that are 10 and 20 years down the road.

SPEAKER_00: We're thinking about what operationalizing

SPEAKER_00: technologies means, and how we use SD 10

SPEAKER_00: as a guiding light to actually do that

SPEAKER_00: and move those things forward.

SPEAKER_00: At the core of all of that really is the zero carbon plan.

SPEAKER_00: How we're decarbonizing the electrical system,

SPEAKER_00: and that being the foundation

SPEAKER_00: for the things that we're doing.

SPEAKER_00: One of my favorite visualizations of that

SPEAKER_00: from an innovation standpoint,

SPEAKER_00: from a research and development standpoint,

SPEAKER_00: is really singling out that new technology

SPEAKER_00: and business model focus.

SPEAKER_00: That element that's supposed to help us drive

SPEAKER_00: to that last 10% of the goal,

SPEAKER_00: and deliver on some of those hardest to decarbonize areas.

SPEAKER_00: And thinking about how the work that we're doing there

SPEAKER_00: is taking those concepts, transitioning them into pilots,

SPEAKER_00: understanding what works and what doesn't,

SPEAKER_00: and then operationalizing those solutions

SPEAKER_00: that create real, genuine decarbonization value.

SPEAKER_00: It's an exciting place to work,

SPEAKER_00: and I'm really grateful for all the incredible folks

SPEAKER_00: that are on my team and across the organization

SPEAKER_00: that contribute to innovation at SMUD.

SPEAKER_00: I'd like to jump into a little bit of a portfolio overview

SPEAKER_00: to give some context into the high level metrics

SPEAKER_00: for how we pursue innovation.

SPEAKER_00: Looking back, on the left side here,

SPEAKER_00: we have our three year budget

SPEAKER_00: that I'll talk about in just a moment.

SPEAKER_00: And on the right here,

SPEAKER_00: we have the topic area breakdown for 2025.

SPEAKER_00: Looking at the chart on the left,

SPEAKER_00: you see that we have a downward trend in our budget

SPEAKER_00: over the last three years

SPEAKER_00: from a research and development standpoint.

SPEAKER_00: The initial reaction when you see that is,

SPEAKER_00: are we investing less in research and development?

SPEAKER_00: Are we doing less work on this topic area?

SPEAKER_00: And I want to call out what I mentioned earlier,

SPEAKER_00: that we're continuing to try and move closer

SPEAKER_00: and closer to operations,

SPEAKER_00: and implemented solutions when we're looking at research

SPEAKER_00: and development and innovation.

SPEAKER_00: And so work that five, 10 years ago,

SPEAKER_00: maybe would have been purely research and development

SPEAKER_00: concept projects,

SPEAKER_00: things that are maybe gonna happen in five and 10 years.

SPEAKER_00: Now, we're looking at solutions

SPEAKER_00: that are on the timeline of our zero carbon plan,

SPEAKER_00: that are in that next one to five year period.

SPEAKER_00: We're partnering with different contributors

SPEAKER_00: across the organization.

SPEAKER_00: Some of this work is budgeted in our capital budget.

SPEAKER_00: Some of this work is budgeted in our operational budgets.

SPEAKER_00: Not because it's not innovative,

SPEAKER_00: but because we're helping with those last steps

SPEAKER_00: to really operationalize solutions.

SPEAKER_00: Things like our large scale battery energy storage research,

SPEAKER_00: which is now partnered with PowerGen,

SPEAKER_00: our distributed energy resource solutions,

SPEAKER_00: which is partnered with our distribution

SPEAKER_00: operation engineering.

SPEAKER_00: Things like our EV charging platforms,

SPEAKER_00: which is embedded into our information technology teams.

SPEAKER_00: It's not just innovation in research and development,

SPEAKER_00: it's innovation at SMUD.

SPEAKER_00: Jumping over to the 2025 topic area breakdown,

SPEAKER_00: there's a couple key areas I wanna call out.

SPEAKER_00: One is transportation electrification

SPEAKER_00: is the primary focus in terms of budget

SPEAKER_00: and topic areas and projects.

SPEAKER_00: That's not a coincidence.

SPEAKER_00: We see significant adoption of electric vehicles

SPEAKER_00: in territory.

SPEAKER_00: You heard from Rachel Wong about two weeks ago

SPEAKER_00: on the incredible work that our customer programs

SPEAKER_00: are doing, nearly 70,000 electric vehicles

SPEAKER_00: in territory now.

SPEAKER_00: Statistics that I've heard include roughly one

SPEAKER_00: in four electric vehicles that were purchased

SPEAKER_00: in Sacramento last year were electric vehicles.

SPEAKER_00: Just really inspiring numbers.

SPEAKER_00: And our focus for research and development and innovation

SPEAKER_00: is really getting behind those topics

SPEAKER_00: that are accelerating quickly on the timelines

SPEAKER_00: that we're working on.

SPEAKER_00: Looking more specific at projects,

SPEAKER_00: this is our three year project trend.

SPEAKER_00: These are actual project counts.

SPEAKER_00: So not all projects are the same size,

SPEAKER_00: some are bigger, some are smaller.

SPEAKER_00: The left set of three bars, from yellow, orange to green,

SPEAKER_00: goes 23, 24, and 25.

SPEAKER_00: And so you'll see in 23 to 24,

SPEAKER_00: we moved from 33 projects down to 22 projects.

SPEAKER_00: What that represents is a significant focus

SPEAKER_00: on really identifying those projects

SPEAKER_00: as the highest priority,

SPEAKER_00: the ones that really need to move forward

SPEAKER_00: in order to meet the aggressive timelines that we're on.

SPEAKER_00: And rather than a broad spectrum of research

SPEAKER_00: that includes a number of technologies

SPEAKER_00: that may not be as impactful

SPEAKER_00: for what we're trying to do near term,

SPEAKER_00: really putting our resources on the most important work

SPEAKER_00: to decarbonize and to reach our goals.

SPEAKER_00: As we moved from 24 to 25,

SPEAKER_00: we saw that focus of projects result in more projects.

SPEAKER_00: So we are continuing to grow in our work.

SPEAKER_00: And a lot of that is enabled

SPEAKER_00: by working across the organization,

SPEAKER_00: identifying projects that are more closely tied

SPEAKER_00: to operations so that we can do more work,

SPEAKER_00: create more innovation with fewer resources,

SPEAKER_00: really focusing on efficiency.

SPEAKER_00: The other element that you'll see,

SPEAKER_00: I wanna draw your attention to the chart on the right here,

SPEAKER_00: in the same way, 23, 24, and 25 reporting periods.

SPEAKER_00: What you'll see going from 24 to 25

SPEAKER_00: is a significant increase in the number of projects

SPEAKER_00: that are having a near term impact.

SPEAKER_00: And that's reflective of the fact

SPEAKER_00: that when we're looking at things

SPEAKER_00: like the timing for our 2030 goals

SPEAKER_00: and what we're trying to do with decarbonization,

SPEAKER_00: we're starting to move into that window

SPEAKER_00: where it is in that one to five year timeline.

SPEAKER_00: And so the importance of having projects

SPEAKER_00: that will have an impact on that timeline

SPEAKER_00: becomes more and more important.

SPEAKER_00: And so that becomes where we're prioritizing those projects

SPEAKER_00: and the projects that are getting resourced

SPEAKER_00: with the most important efforts.

SPEAKER_00: Jumping into some specific project highlights

SPEAKER_00: that I wanna run through quickly.

SPEAKER_00: First, looking at our EV ecosystem.

SPEAKER_00: I talked a little bit about how we're seeing

SPEAKER_00: a lot of electric vehicle adoption

SPEAKER_00: in the service territory.

SPEAKER_00: What that tells us is that the vehicle technology itself

SPEAKER_00: is very well established.

SPEAKER_00: You also see a number of chargers going in folks garages.

SPEAKER_00: You see a number of chargers available in the public.

SPEAKER_00: What we're looking at from an innovation standpoint

SPEAKER_00: is asking some difficult questions around

SPEAKER_00: how do we make sure that we as a utility

SPEAKER_00: are ensuring access to charging.

SPEAKER_00: We've completed a research project

SPEAKER_00: on smart plug technology.

SPEAKER_00: Again, two weeks ago, you heard about customer programs

SPEAKER_00: that are actually now deploying those smart plugs

SPEAKER_00: into apartment complexes and businesses.

SPEAKER_00: It's just an example of that near market-ready research

SPEAKER_00: that we're doing and immediately resulting

SPEAKER_00: in the deployment of that technology

SPEAKER_00: through customer programs.

SPEAKER_00: We're also working on development of an EV charging app

SPEAKER_00: alongside SEW to make access to charging

SPEAKER_00: and affordability of charging much more available

SPEAKER_00: and reliable for customers in the territory.

SPEAKER_00: We have projects underway to install approximately

SPEAKER_00: 500 level two chargers at multifamily dwellings.

SPEAKER_00: And we're also upgrading our DC fast charger network

SPEAKER_00: that is in operation at the Sacramento Valley Amtrak Station

SPEAKER_00: and the airport.

SPEAKER_00: Those sites have DC fast chargers.

SPEAKER_00: They're pretty widely used, but they're outdated technology.

SPEAKER_00: And so we're upgrading them to higher speed chargers

SPEAKER_00: and really focused on making sure that

SPEAKER_00: ride share drivers and high mileage drivers

SPEAKER_00: have reliable access to EV charging.

SPEAKER_00: We're looking at high utilization sites.

SPEAKER_00: And we're also building a new DC fast charger site

SPEAKER_00: at Sacramento State, which is a location

SPEAKER_00: which does not have a nearby DC fast charger

SPEAKER_00: and has a significant opportunity to serve a high number

SPEAKER_00: of electric vehicles.

SPEAKER_00: So we're very excited about that as well.

SPEAKER_00: In addition to access to charging,

SPEAKER_00: the follow-on question is once the chargers are there,

SPEAKER_00: once the solutions are in place

SPEAKER_00: and the vehicles have been adopted,

SPEAKER_00: how can we incorporate those as resources for the grid?

SPEAKER_00: This becomes a very leading focus

SPEAKER_00: for our research and development group.

SPEAKER_00: We have now run through our research and development effort

SPEAKER_00: a residential EV managed charging pilot,

SPEAKER_00: which to date has roughly 1,000 customers enrolled,

SPEAKER_00: managing those electric vehicles

SPEAKER_00: and helping coordinate their charging

SPEAKER_00: with the availability of capacity and energy on the grid.

SPEAKER_00: Moving forward from managed charging,

SPEAKER_00: we're looking at actual vehicle to grid technology.

SPEAKER_00: So today you see commercials for Ford or GM

SPEAKER_00: and it's the car pulling into the garage and they plug in

SPEAKER_00: and all of a sudden on a de-energized block,

SPEAKER_00: the lights on the house turn on.

SPEAKER_00: And what that is today is vehicle to home technology.

SPEAKER_00: It's the car powering the home

SPEAKER_00: while it's disconnected from the grid.

SPEAKER_00: And what we're interested in is how can that vehicle

SPEAKER_00: and that battery and that energy storage

SPEAKER_00: actually interact with the grid

SPEAKER_00: to help support the infrastructure

SPEAKER_00: and to help support the investment that we're making

SPEAKER_00: to enable this electrification rather than just being load.

SPEAKER_00: Utilizing energy storage where it's available

SPEAKER_00: is something that we're very excited about.

SPEAKER_00: We have a number of efforts that are also looking

SPEAKER_00: at that same technology for school buses

SPEAKER_00: and how we enable that and what that impact could be.

SPEAKER_00: We've been working with Twin Rivers

SPEAKER_00: on a vehicle to grid pilot for the last couple years.

SPEAKER_00: And now as we're looking forward,

SPEAKER_00: we're doing an analysis to understand

SPEAKER_00: what the entire market potential is for those school buses

SPEAKER_00: to support demand response and utility programs.

SPEAKER_00: And we're working with bus manufacturers

SPEAKER_00: to understand how we can expand those programs

SPEAKER_00: and bring that technology forward.

SPEAKER_00: This is a very exciting area for innovation

SPEAKER_00: that we're just starting to really see the tip

SPEAKER_00: of the iceberg on as we see more

SPEAKER_00: and more electric vehicles and territory.

SPEAKER_02: Quick question on that.

SPEAKER_02: Please.

SPEAKER_02: How, would you have any preliminary findings

SPEAKER_02: on that two years of Twin Rivers bus to grid?

SPEAKER_00: We do.

SPEAKER_00: So there's actually two channels for that answer.

SPEAKER_00: One is that the preliminary findings

SPEAKER_00: have been incorporated and we're working on incorporating

SPEAKER_00: those into our interconnection process

SPEAKER_00: so that we can easily bring these types of chargers online

SPEAKER_00: and we can eliminate any barriers or uncertainty

SPEAKER_00: around the operation of those chargers for the site hosts.

SPEAKER_00: That's a really critical component.

SPEAKER_00: The other element is actually a less enjoyable outcome

SPEAKER_00: for that particular project where the aggregator

SPEAKER_00: is no longer operating the vehicle to grid component

SPEAKER_00: of those chargers.

SPEAKER_00: So we don't have active vehicle to grid operation today.

SPEAKER_00: And so they're in the process of evaluating

SPEAKER_00: going out to bed to find a new aggregator,

SPEAKER_00: which is something that we're continuing dialogue

SPEAKER_00: with them and supporting them on.

SPEAKER_00: And we're also incorporating that into our planning

SPEAKER_00: and strategy for an expansion of services.

SPEAKER_00: That's actually a really important component

SPEAKER_00: for the research is that we partner

SPEAKER_00: with the first customer to learn those things,

SPEAKER_00: sometimes the hard way, so that when we bring this forward

SPEAKER_00: to the broad market, when I hand this program

SPEAKER_00: our research and development department

SPEAKER_00: over to our distributed energy solutions team

SPEAKER_00: and it becomes a program that we know it's gonna work,

SPEAKER_00: we know it's gonna create the customer value

SPEAKER_00: that we're looking for and it's reliable.

SPEAKER_02: That's awesome and to me it's just really efficient

SPEAKER_02: because it makes more sense to me that we're using

SPEAKER_02: the batteries that are already in vehicles,

SPEAKER_02: large vehicles especially, instead of having to buy

SPEAKER_02: large separate commercial battery storage.

SPEAKER_02: If we can figure out how these things can go back and forth

SPEAKER_02: and store renewable power during the day and use it

SPEAKER_02: and then or release it back when we need it at night.

SPEAKER_02: The other question I had on EV charging in general

SPEAKER_02: is I'm pleased to see how many new chargers

SPEAKER_02: are going in around town but what I think

SPEAKER_02: we're still not grabbing is the public wants

SPEAKER_02: convenience, fun and they wanna be able to grab a soda,

SPEAKER_02: they wanna be able to have cover,

SPEAKER_02: in the pouring rain, in a parking lot

SPEAKER_02: that they feel a little exposed in.

SPEAKER_02: And so that's just like are we ever gonna get to the place

SPEAKER_02: where this is like charging stations

SPEAKER_02: or more like gas stations?

SPEAKER_00: So I believe the answer to that is yes.

SPEAKER_00: There will be probably in kind of my technical opinion

SPEAKER_00: two types of stations that we're talking about

SPEAKER_00: where you're talking about corridor charging stations

SPEAKER_00: along highways and interstates and major thoroughfares.

SPEAKER_00: And then I think that we're gonna continue to see

SPEAKER_00: a growth and proliferation of charging where people live.

SPEAKER_00: And so for single family homeowners

SPEAKER_00: that's an easy response.

SPEAKER_00: You have a house, you likely have a garage,

SPEAKER_00: you charge in your garage, that's very easy.

SPEAKER_00: For multi-family dwellings that's more difficult

SPEAKER_00: and so that's why that's one of the things

SPEAKER_00: that we're prioritizing helping to find a solution to.

SPEAKER_02: Yeah and I get that and we can do that

SPEAKER_02: where a gas you can't fill up at home

SPEAKER_02: but I still think there's when you're traveling

SPEAKER_02: it's really important to make it nicer for people

SPEAKER_02: to pull over and stop and have a safe place

SPEAKER_02: to use the facilities, get a drink

SPEAKER_02: and be out of the weather.

SPEAKER_02: So I would just encourage us, I know that I've been approached

SPEAKER_02: by at least one company about a year ago

SPEAKER_02: that had an idea around this.

SPEAKER_02: I don't know if they've come to you

SPEAKER_02: or if anything came of that but the idea for me

SPEAKER_02: was quite compelling as a driver

SPEAKER_02: just really wanting to not be in the middle

SPEAKER_02: of a parking lot by myself sometimes.

SPEAKER_02: So thank you.

SPEAKER_02: Significant value in reducing the occurrence

SPEAKER_00: of vandalism as well which is one of the leading causes

SPEAKER_00: for station availability and downtime.

SPEAKER_11: Yep.

SPEAKER_00: Moving to our next kind of theming topic area,

SPEAKER_00: distributed energy resources.

SPEAKER_00: In this area we've made considerable advancements

SPEAKER_00: in how we look at DER operation and control.

SPEAKER_00: In this past year we've completed both phase two

SPEAKER_00: and phase three of the development

SPEAKER_00: of our distributed energy resource management system.

SPEAKER_00: To put that in the context of what that means,

SPEAKER_00: it allows us to control distributed energy resources,

SPEAKER_00: large scale resources based on their location

SPEAKER_00: on the electrical system.

SPEAKER_00: It's a step forward from how do we operate this

SPEAKER_00: based on the energy market and how do we think about this

SPEAKER_00: in terms of what our thermal plants, our solar arrays

SPEAKER_00: are doing or what our utility scale solutions are doing

SPEAKER_00: to how can this battery that's located

SPEAKER_00: on the distribution system support

SPEAKER_00: that distribution transformer,

SPEAKER_00: support the line loading conditions

SPEAKER_00: based on that particular location.

SPEAKER_00: And then with phase three it expands on that

SPEAKER_00: to give us the ability to not just control

SPEAKER_00: those large resources but to support aggregations

SPEAKER_00: of a high number of smaller distributed energy resources.

SPEAKER_00: So instead of one or two batteries based on the location,

SPEAKER_00: thinking about what it looks like to control 100 batteries

SPEAKER_00: that are co-located in a small area

SPEAKER_00: supporting local infrastructure.

SPEAKER_00: Huge value opportunities and a direct line of convergence

SPEAKER_00: between this conversation and the vehicle to grid

SPEAKER_00: and electric vehicle manage charging conversation

SPEAKER_00: we had on the previous slide.

SPEAKER_00: We also in this past planning year

SPEAKER_00: completed the planning and design work

SPEAKER_00: for a multi-family dwelling project

SPEAKER_00: that would include the installation of 100 batteries

SPEAKER_00: at that site.

SPEAKER_00: The map that you see at the bottom of the sheet here

SPEAKER_00: is the build out schedule for that particular project.

SPEAKER_00: So that's individual batteries supporting

SPEAKER_00: individual households in a multi-family dwelling scenario.

SPEAKER_00: Very exciting because those are households

SPEAKER_00: that wouldn't otherwise without this type of project

SPEAKER_00: have the opportunity to have access to battery resiliency,

SPEAKER_00: backup power, the ability to arbitrage

SPEAKER_00: and manage their own energy usage.

SPEAKER_00: It's a very exciting project.

SPEAKER_00: I do wanna call out that after this reporting period

SPEAKER_00: and very recently with the loss of the solar ITC

SPEAKER_00: and the solar support, this project is now in question

SPEAKER_00: as to whether the developer still intends to move forward.

SPEAKER_00: So we've done the work, we've enhanced our process,

SPEAKER_00: we've made the investments to be able to control

SPEAKER_00: these types of systems.

SPEAKER_00: We have considerable learnings from the work

SPEAKER_00: that we've done here but we are in the unfortunate

SPEAKER_00: circumstance where the project may not move forward

SPEAKER_00: to full build.

Unknown: And that's because you said ITC, is that the federal grant?

SPEAKER_02: And it's the federal support for solar.

SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for those that are listening, we had what,

SPEAKER_02: about $400 million of grants pulled back

SPEAKER_02: from the federal government.

SPEAKER_02: So that was one of them, multi-family.

SPEAKER_00: On the right side here, looking at DER integration.

SPEAKER_00: So it's not just controlling large numbers of DERs

SPEAKER_00: but also how we work with those individual DERs.

SPEAKER_00: We've launched a pilot now where we're evaluating

SPEAKER_00: smart panels as a means to help electrifying homes.

SPEAKER_00: And so you see in the bottom right hand corner

SPEAKER_00: of the picture of a span panel.

SPEAKER_00: That's actually installed on the side of a customer's house

SPEAKER_00: in our Meadowview community.

SPEAKER_00: That panel enables the customer to fully electrify

SPEAKER_00: their house, a task that would normally require

SPEAKER_00: 200 amps of service that they're able to do

SPEAKER_00: with 100 amp panel size.

SPEAKER_00: The impact is that the service to the home doesn't need

SPEAKER_00: to be upgraded when two or three houses on that block

SPEAKER_00: electrify their homes, the transformers don't need

SPEAKER_00: to be upgraded, significant infrastructure opportunities.

SPEAKER_00: We're piloting it in R&D so that we can hopefully see

SPEAKER_00: that type of technology and solution proliferate

SPEAKER_00: into the operational side and help customers electrify

SPEAKER_00: and be part of this decarbonization journey

SPEAKER_00: that we're on.

SPEAKER_08: James, could you, for the folks who are listening,

SPEAKER_08: could you give just a brief overview

SPEAKER_08: of how the span panel works?

SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00: So this is a technology that I'm particularly excited about.

SPEAKER_00: The panel itself, it has individual measuring capability

SPEAKER_00: on all of the circuits, and so it understands

SPEAKER_00: how much load is being consumed at any given time.

SPEAKER_00: And it can help manage those loads so that whatever

SPEAKER_00: you want to be powering is going to be able to draw

SPEAKER_00: that power without exceeding the hardware limitation

SPEAKER_00: or the connection limitation that the household

SPEAKER_00: would normally have through a 100 amp panel.

SPEAKER_00: So you can imagine having your air conditioner set

SPEAKER_00: to 74 degrees and your electric vehicle charging

SPEAKER_00: and you turn on your microwave.

SPEAKER_00: Well, if that microwave would have normally exceeded

SPEAKER_00: your rating, you can imagine that a breaker's gonna trip.

SPEAKER_00: You might have power go out in a part of your house

SPEAKER_00: and you have to go out to the garage,

SPEAKER_00: you have to figure out what happened.

SPEAKER_00: In this instance, the smart panel is gonna register

SPEAKER_00: that you're consuming that excess amount of power.

SPEAKER_00: And it may temporarily throttle down that EV charging rate

SPEAKER_00: so that you can finish microwaving your food.

SPEAKER_00: And when that microwave is done, that EV charger

SPEAKER_00: is gonna then throttle back up.

SPEAKER_00: The really compelling part about the SPAN solution

SPEAKER_00: in particular is that they also have an app

SPEAKER_00: that allows the individual customers

SPEAKER_00: to set their prioritization.

SPEAKER_00: And so you may have a high priority that I need

SPEAKER_00: my electric vehicle charged.

SPEAKER_00: You can set that as a highest priority.

SPEAKER_00: That may matter less to me.

SPEAKER_00: I may be having all night to charge,

SPEAKER_00: but I really wanna make sure that my air conditioner

SPEAKER_00: is running.

SPEAKER_00: I can have my own priorities and how that panel

SPEAKER_00: helps manage my energy to make sure that I can operate

SPEAKER_00: in that 100 amp threshold and avoid that cost

SPEAKER_00: of upgrading the panel myself,

SPEAKER_00: but also help the utility avoid that cost

SPEAKER_00: for upgrading the infrastructure that's needed

SPEAKER_00: to serve that higher capacity.

Unknown: Thank you.

SPEAKER_02: And James, just so people know,

SPEAKER_02: I mean upgrading a panel is very expensive.

SPEAKER_02: Yes.

SPEAKER_02: What are we talking, like 10,000?

SPEAKER_02: Like 10,000 dollars potentially more,

SPEAKER_00: depending on the location of the meter

SPEAKER_00: relative to the sidewalk of the house

SPEAKER_00: and the front of the house.

SPEAKER_00: We've seen numbers as high as 20,000 dollars or more.

SPEAKER_02: So that's a huge barrier to entry for people

SPEAKER_02: to get an electric vehicle or anything like that

SPEAKER_02: if they've got a 100 amp panel.

SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02: This is a great solution.

SPEAKER_02: I hope it all works out, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: Yep.

SPEAKER_00: Going further, on the bottom right here,

SPEAKER_00: we've seen a lot of technology around meter collars.

SPEAKER_00: In the last couple of years, we did a pilot with Tesla.

SPEAKER_00: They were one of the first ones

SPEAKER_00: with this piece of technology.

SPEAKER_00: It really helps reduce the installation time

SPEAKER_00: for solar systems.

SPEAKER_00: It increases the efficiency of home resiliency

SPEAKER_00: and backup power systems.

SPEAKER_00: You see that the meter collar is actually mounted

SPEAKER_00: directly underneath the SMUD meter in that picture.

SPEAKER_00: This was a very compelling project

SPEAKER_00: that we piloted with Tesla.

SPEAKER_00: Since then, we're very excited to see

SPEAKER_00: that a number of other solar installers

SPEAKER_00: and technology developers are also developing the solution.

SPEAKER_00: In the last year, we've developed a process

SPEAKER_00: for piloting and evaluating these technology solutions

SPEAKER_00: so that we can approve them for grid use.

SPEAKER_00: The meter collars that you're looking at in that picture

SPEAKER_00: is actually an in-phase meter collar,

SPEAKER_00: which is now completing, moving through that process

SPEAKER_00: so that we can continue to support

SPEAKER_00: as diverse of a number of solar systems

SPEAKER_00: and installers as possible to continue

SPEAKER_00: to accelerate the adoption of these systems

SPEAKER_00: and the proliferation of these decarbonizing technologies.

SPEAKER_00: We also have a theme centered around AI at SMUD.

SPEAKER_00: In the last year, we've seen a number of conversations

SPEAKER_00: around data centers and AI and how it's changing the world.

SPEAKER_00: It's not just SMUD looking out that we're thinking about AI,

SPEAKER_00: it's also SMUD looking in and thinking about

SPEAKER_00: how these AI solutions are changing

SPEAKER_00: the way that we're operating.

SPEAKER_00: In this reporting year, we really started to ramp

SPEAKER_00: into this technology, thinking about how

SPEAKER_00: large language models can make us more efficient

SPEAKER_00: at our work, and also looking at how these algorithms

SPEAKER_00: can help us manage and forecast things

SPEAKER_00: like outages from storms.

SPEAKER_00: This is an area that I'm excited to see grow

SPEAKER_00: in the coming years and one that we are investing heavily in

SPEAKER_00: from an innovation standpoint.

SPEAKER_00: We also have a significant amount of work going on

SPEAKER_00: in our robotics portfolio.

SPEAKER_00: On the right side here, there's two projects

SPEAKER_00: that I wanna highlight.

SPEAKER_00: The first is a visual camera inspection array

SPEAKER_00: that's installed around battery systems or solar systems.

SPEAKER_00: This is actually the purple picture that you see

SPEAKER_00: in the center there, which is really a thermal image.

SPEAKER_00: And what you're seeing is that camera monitoring

SPEAKER_00: the thermal profiles of these battery systems,

SPEAKER_00: taking in information about how hot of a day it is,

SPEAKER_00: what the normal operating profile for these batteries is.

SPEAKER_00: And the idea is that it's helping us detect

SPEAKER_00: any potential early failure modes

SPEAKER_00: so that we can get early failure notification,

SPEAKER_00: enact our emergency responses, and detect failures

SPEAKER_00: before they become catastrophic failures.

SPEAKER_00: It's a very exciting project.

SPEAKER_00: Again, part of our research portfolio,

SPEAKER_00: but if successful, we hope to operationalize more broadly

SPEAKER_00: across our utility scale investments and larger projects.

SPEAKER_00: And then in the bottom right here,

SPEAKER_00: we have a robot inspection pilot,

SPEAKER_00: which is helping us evaluate the ability of robots

SPEAKER_00: to take measurements and provide visual inspections,

SPEAKER_00: potentially in hard to reach areas

SPEAKER_00: for where humans would otherwise have a difficult time

SPEAKER_00: providing inspections.

SPEAKER_00: On the grid innovation side,

SPEAKER_00: we are continuing to do work on our hydrogen projects.

SPEAKER_00: Specifically, we're working with EPRI

SPEAKER_00: on our Department of Energy High Blend grant project.

SPEAKER_00: This is a $12.4 million project

SPEAKER_00: that's allowing us to evaluate the impact of hydrogen

SPEAKER_00: on our pipelines so that we can understand

SPEAKER_00: what that opportunity is for fuel conversion in the future.

SPEAKER_00: It's not just what can your thermal power plants do,

SPEAKER_00: it's also how are you gonna transport that hydrogen?

SPEAKER_00: What's the impact on the infrastructure?

SPEAKER_00: What can you reuse and where do you need to invest new?

SPEAKER_00: And so this is work that's ongoing.

SPEAKER_00: Unfortunately, with the recent federal changes,

SPEAKER_00: this grant after this reporting period

SPEAKER_00: was funded through ARCHES,

SPEAKER_00: and the ARCHES funding has since been rescinded.

Unknown: Bottom left here are thermal transition line technologies.

SPEAKER_00: We have a full portfolio that's developing

SPEAKER_00: around dynamic line ratings,

SPEAKER_00: and looking at how we make best use of the infrastructure

SPEAKER_00: that we have serving the region.

SPEAKER_00: As we think about electric vehicles

SPEAKER_00: and other larger intermittent loads of that type,

SPEAKER_00: we start to see profiles where,

SPEAKER_00: depending on the time of day,

SPEAKER_00: we're making very different utilizations of our lines.

SPEAKER_00: Wind conditions change the way that we utilize

SPEAKER_00: that infrastructure.

SPEAKER_00: And so from a research standpoint,

SPEAKER_00: we're looking at how those line ratings

SPEAKER_00: are affected by those dynamic conditions,

SPEAKER_00: and how that may change how we operate the grid

SPEAKER_00: in the future.

SPEAKER_00: And then on the right side here,

SPEAKER_00: I wanna spend a moment highlighting

SPEAKER_00: some of the carbon farming and ecosystem services

SPEAKER_00: that we're developing.

SPEAKER_00: This marks our fourth year

SPEAKER_00: in studying our pollinator initiatives

SPEAKER_00: at the Rancho Seiko project.

SPEAKER_00: And really in this last year,

SPEAKER_00: we've highlighted an emphasis

SPEAKER_00: on low maintenance pollinator methods,

SPEAKER_00: and expanding the footprint beyond

SPEAKER_00: the simple immediate adjacency

SPEAKER_00: and under panel locations for the pollinator locations.

SPEAKER_00: We're targeting achieving

SPEAKER_00: the Be Better Electric certification at the site,

SPEAKER_00: which is something that's very, very exciting.

SPEAKER_00: And we're also investing in things

SPEAKER_00: like drone seeding programs,

SPEAKER_00: and understanding how that improves

SPEAKER_00: the efficiency of seeding,

SPEAKER_00: the reliability of seeding,

SPEAKER_00: how we can expand the footprint

SPEAKER_00: through that more efficient seeding.

SPEAKER_00: So really technology inspiring nature

SPEAKER_00: is a very cool concept,

SPEAKER_00: and one that we're excited to see

SPEAKER_00: how this can benefit our solar arrays,

SPEAKER_00: how our learnings can benefit others

SPEAKER_00: that are making similar investments.

SPEAKER_00: A very exciting conversation to align,

SPEAKER_00: really innovation that's going on everywhere

SPEAKER_00: with a supporting opportunity.

SPEAKER_02: And James, you said expanded footprint.

SPEAKER_02: What does that mean?

SPEAKER_02: How far beyond the panels?

SPEAKER_00: I think it's a 15 foot radius,

SPEAKER_00: but it depends on kind of the individual rows

SPEAKER_00: of the panels and how close they're mounted together.

SPEAKER_00: We're also looking at the impact

SPEAKER_00: of the different facing styles of PV panels

SPEAKER_00: and how that may influence the radius.

SPEAKER_08: Can you tell us a little bit about

SPEAKER_08: what you have to do to achieve

SPEAKER_08: the Be Better Electric certification?

SPEAKER_00: I would have to follow up with that separately.

SPEAKER_00: I don't know the specific criteria.

SPEAKER_00: And then looking at our utility scale energy storage,

SPEAKER_00: we have our four megawatt lithium battery project.

SPEAKER_00: This was installed several years ago,

SPEAKER_00: and so a lot of times we get questions around

SPEAKER_00: what are we doing with that project?

SPEAKER_00: Is it still operating?

SPEAKER_00: Is it still running?

SPEAKER_00: And I'm excited to say that ever since

SPEAKER_00: this project was brought online,

SPEAKER_00: we have continued to utilize it as a supporting resource

SPEAKER_00: for how we develop battery programs

SPEAKER_00: and solutions going forward.

SPEAKER_00: Our research and development engineers

SPEAKER_00: that actually helped install this very first system

SPEAKER_00: now collaborate day by day

SPEAKER_00: with the actual procurement teams

SPEAKER_00: and our power generation team

SPEAKER_00: to help set the standards for our large scale

SPEAKER_00: battery energy storage procurement.

SPEAKER_00: So the things that we learned here first

SPEAKER_00: are now incorporated into all of the battery projects

SPEAKER_00: that we do.

SPEAKER_00: That includes the best practices on safety standards

SPEAKER_00: that we've developed for our operators and engineers

SPEAKER_00: that we utilize at SMUD.

SPEAKER_00: And right now we are working on programs

SPEAKER_00: that are investigating black start

SPEAKER_00: and inverter based resources

SPEAKER_00: so that these batteries can contribute directly

SPEAKER_00: to grid reliability side by side

SPEAKER_00: with conventional generation resources.

SPEAKER_00: On the right side here,

SPEAKER_00: our long duration energy storage system.

SPEAKER_00: The ESS flow battery pilot this last year

SPEAKER_00: has come to a conclusion.

SPEAKER_00: ESS as an organization is actually undergoing

SPEAKER_00: some organizational restructuring.

SPEAKER_00: As part of that effort, they've made the decision

SPEAKER_00: to shift their focus to their next generation product.

SPEAKER_00: And so the energy warehouses that are cited at our location

SPEAKER_00: are no longer their priority focus.

SPEAKER_00: As a result, the decision was made to conclude the pilot

SPEAKER_00: and monitor their next generation technology.

SPEAKER_00: We remain actively engaged with ESS

SPEAKER_00: and we're incorporating that information

SPEAKER_00: so that we can continue to evaluate

SPEAKER_00: long duration energy storage

SPEAKER_00: as part of our long range integrated resource planning.

SPEAKER_00: And so that's something that we're actively doing.

SPEAKER_00: But the pilot itself, which was six containers,

SPEAKER_00: 350 kilowatts of long duration energy storage

SPEAKER_00: has concluded in this year.

SPEAKER_00: And in conclusion, I'd like to request

SPEAKER_00: that the board move to,

SPEAKER_00: that the board put on the consent agenda

SPEAKER_00: to accept the SD10 monitoring report.

SPEAKER_02: Thank you James.

SPEAKER_02: I'm always excited to hear about the innovations

SPEAKER_02: and all the things you're working on.

SPEAKER_02: And a lot of them are just very practical things

SPEAKER_02: for keeping this grid working and as clean as possible.

SPEAKER_02: Did you have any questions or thoughts?

SPEAKER_02: I just wanted to say thank you to you and the team.

SPEAKER_08: SMUD really prides itself on innovation.

SPEAKER_08: And it always has.

SPEAKER_08: And so it's good to see us

SPEAKER_08: taking on some things that we haven't before.

SPEAKER_08: And I just wanna say,

SPEAKER_08: the pollinator stuff is really important to me

SPEAKER_08: because it's so simple

SPEAKER_08: and you can engage others to do it too.

SPEAKER_08: So you guys are on the right track and good work.

Unknown: Thank you.

SPEAKER_02: Unless I hear or see anybody else on the phone, the remote.

SPEAKER_02: Are there any comments online?

SPEAKER_02: Yes, we do.

SPEAKER_02: From John.

SPEAKER_02: John, you wanna go ahead?

SPEAKER_04: Hello, this is John Weber.

SPEAKER_04: Can you hear me?

SPEAKER_02: We can, go right ahead.

SPEAKER_04: Yes, good evening, chair and board.

SPEAKER_04: Thank you for the presentation staff.

SPEAKER_04: I support the vehicle to grid solutions.

SPEAKER_04: We have approximately five gigawatt hours of storage

SPEAKER_04: in EVs within our service territory.

SPEAKER_04: A year from now, there will be even more bi-directional

SPEAKER_04: vehicle to grid chargers available.

SPEAKER_04: It would be nice to see some type of incentives

SPEAKER_04: for these bi-directional chargers

SPEAKER_04: in the 2027 calendar year.

SPEAKER_04: Thank you for your time and have a good evening.

SPEAKER_02: Thank you, John.

SPEAKER_02: James was frantically nodding,

SPEAKER_02: so I'm gonna let him say if there's something,

SPEAKER_02: you wanna speak to that?

SPEAKER_00: That's absolutely exciting.

SPEAKER_00: I would just comment that we like to think about

SPEAKER_00: these batteries in vehicles.

SPEAKER_00: Similarly, we think about the stationary batteries.

SPEAKER_00: They create value.

SPEAKER_00: We have programs that pay those stationary batteries

SPEAKER_00: for that grid benefit.

SPEAKER_00: And we'd like to see all of these types of energy storage

SPEAKER_00: move in that direction.

SPEAKER_00: So, a very exciting topic.

SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and for me, I mean,

SPEAKER_02: knowing that we are in a deficit of critical minerals,

SPEAKER_02: earth minerals in this country,

SPEAKER_02: in order for national security

SPEAKER_02: and to continue to make these batteries at home,

SPEAKER_02: we're gonna have to recycle them too.

SPEAKER_02: And we have to maximize use of what we've already got.

SPEAKER_02: So, thank you, John.

SPEAKER_02: Are there any other comments?

SPEAKER_02: I do not see any.

SPEAKER_02: Okay, and I don't see any here in the room.

SPEAKER_02: So then we will go ahead

SPEAKER_02: and put that on the consent calendar.

SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much, James, for that.

Unknown: And we'll move on to agenda item number three,

SPEAKER_02: which is to discuss the monitoring report

SPEAKER_02: for strategic direction 19, diversified business,

SPEAKER_02: and presenting that is also James, welcome back.

Unknown: I didn't change my coat, but I should have.

SPEAKER_00: Thank you.

Unknown: So, I always enjoy presenting SD19 directly after SD10,

SPEAKER_00: because it's our innovation and it's our forward thinking

SPEAKER_00: and it's our leadership in the industry

SPEAKER_00: that really gives us the opportunity to invest

SPEAKER_00: in things like SD19 and diversified business.

SPEAKER_00: The way that we are able to look at capitalizing

SPEAKER_00: on intellectual property, in order to have a patent,

SPEAKER_00: in order to have intellectual property,

SPEAKER_00: you need to be a first mover.

SPEAKER_00: You need to be an early investor.

SPEAKER_00: You need to be an innovator.

SPEAKER_00: And so, this strategic directive really builds on

SPEAKER_00: what is at the core of that innovation culture

SPEAKER_00: that we just had the opportunity to talk about

SPEAKER_00: and we heard so much excitement around.

SPEAKER_00: Again, in the same way that innovation is centered

SPEAKER_00: around our zero carbon plan,

SPEAKER_00: new business development is absolutely critical

SPEAKER_00: to how we achieve our long-term goals.

SPEAKER_00: It is the new technology and business models

SPEAKER_00: and how we enable those.

SPEAKER_00: It is also the way that we pursue grants and partnerships

SPEAKER_00: so that we can ensure affordability on this journey.

SPEAKER_00: When we think about our approach to SD19,

SPEAKER_00: we look at it in terms of revenue services,

SPEAKER_00: technology partnerships, and grants and external funding.

SPEAKER_00: From the grant side, as I jump into this slide,

SPEAKER_00: I do want to highlight that we've had some recent changes

SPEAKER_00: to the grant projects with recent news

SPEAKER_00: from the Department of Energy.

SPEAKER_00: The numbers that you're looking at here

SPEAKER_00: were developed prior to any news

SPEAKER_00: that's happened in the last week.

SPEAKER_00: In the previous reporting period,

SPEAKER_00: you'll see the grant portfolio

SPEAKER_00: that we are working on delivering

SPEAKER_00: is around $238 million worth of projects

SPEAKER_00: that are enabled by grants.

SPEAKER_00: Of that $92 million, nearly $93 million

SPEAKER_00: are awards coming from grants.

SPEAKER_00: The other $145 million is project investment

SPEAKER_00: and development investment from SMUD

SPEAKER_00: to enable these solutions.

SPEAKER_00: Some highlights from this particular reporting year

SPEAKER_00: is the CERI grant, which stands for

SPEAKER_00: California Energy Reliability

SPEAKER_00: and Resilient Infrastructure Grant.

SPEAKER_00: This grant was won in 2024,

SPEAKER_00: and it includes investment into the downtown grid,

SPEAKER_00: switch gear, cabling, and infrastructure upgrades

SPEAKER_00: to help modernize that technology

SPEAKER_00: in a way that lets it integrate

SPEAKER_00: with the distributed energy resource investments

SPEAKER_00: that we're making, and helps us manage that

SPEAKER_00: as part of our portfolio of resources

SPEAKER_00: using really the leading edge technology

SPEAKER_00: that we're investing in.

SPEAKER_00: That grant itself is worth $23 million.

SPEAKER_00: Jumping down, we have the CFI grant,

SPEAKER_00: Clean Fuel Infrastructure Grant,

SPEAKER_00: that was also awarded in the 2024 period.

SPEAKER_00: This grant is to fund 90 new charge stations,

SPEAKER_00: including some stations that were in garages

SPEAKER_00: and undercover, that is 90 charge handles,

SPEAKER_00: level two and DC fast charge handles,

SPEAKER_00: that would have been spread out across about 15 sites.

SPEAKER_00: This project was awarded in 2024,

SPEAKER_00: planning began in 2025.

SPEAKER_00: Unfortunately, this project has been removed

SPEAKER_00: from federal funding as of 2025.

SPEAKER_02: Meaning we got notice we're not gonna get the money.

SPEAKER_00: Correct.

SPEAKER_00: So we still have the sites identified,

SPEAKER_00: they still infill critical locations,

SPEAKER_00: and we are continuing to pursue

SPEAKER_00: alternative grant funding opportunities,

SPEAKER_00: but this particular funding opportunity

SPEAKER_00: did not come to fruition.

SPEAKER_00: And then at the bottom here,

SPEAKER_00: we have our extreme heat and resiliency grant.

SPEAKER_00: This is a grant that was awarded in partnership

SPEAKER_00: with the Sacramento Unified School District,

SPEAKER_00: and it is a planning grant for a community microgrid

SPEAKER_00: and resiliency hub at the Hiram Johnson School.

SPEAKER_00: This is allowing us to do the engineering work,

SPEAKER_00: the engineering study,

SPEAKER_00: understand the costs associated with this,

SPEAKER_00: and giving us a potential highest confidence path forward

SPEAKER_00: for a future project at this location.

Unknown: So James, of these three projects,

SPEAKER_08: it's like 238 million,

SPEAKER_08: but what's been pulled back by the federal government?

SPEAKER_00: So of these projects, the CFI grant has been pulled back,

SPEAKER_00: and the more recent grant that we have implicated

SPEAKER_00: is potentially our GRIP grant.

SPEAKER_00: We're talking about on the order of potentially

SPEAKER_00: 60 million dollars worth of grant funds

SPEAKER_00: that are at least implicated in the current conversation.

SPEAKER_00: We don't have final information on all of this,

SPEAKER_00: and this is an active conversation,

SPEAKER_00: so there's a lot more that needs to happen

SPEAKER_00: before we have final answers there.

Unknown: Thank you.

SPEAKER_00: I will call out, especially on some of these critical grants,

SPEAKER_00: is that with our grant effort,

SPEAKER_00: we really prioritize identifying those projects

SPEAKER_00: that need to get done for us to achieve our 2030 goal.

SPEAKER_00: We're not looking at grants as an opportunity to go out

SPEAKER_00: and try and do this thing

SPEAKER_00: that we wouldn't have otherwise done.

SPEAKER_00: We really are laser focused on those end goals.

SPEAKER_00: So when we receive this grant funding,

SPEAKER_00: it's a tool that lets us accelerate towards that finish line,

SPEAKER_00: that lets us do it faster,

SPEAKER_00: lets us do it more efficiently.

SPEAKER_00: Having these grants is a tool

SPEAKER_00: to help us move down that path more quickly.

SPEAKER_00: It does not prevent us from moving down that path

SPEAKER_00: towards our goals.

SPEAKER_00: Jumping into technology and industry partners,

SPEAKER_00: I've got two slides here on this particular topic.

SPEAKER_00: On the first slide, I want to touch on our partnerships

SPEAKER_00: with AspenTech, Uplight, and SEW.

SPEAKER_00: AspenTech is our DERMS developer.

SPEAKER_00: We've actually had a chance to talk about them

SPEAKER_00: in quite a few projects on the previous slides.

SPEAKER_00: You can see how they're very integrated with our innovation.

SPEAKER_00: Through this partnership, one of the opportunities

SPEAKER_00: that we have as a leader is

SPEAKER_00: because we are developing these solutions first.

SPEAKER_00: Other utilities are looking to us.

SPEAKER_00: They're wanting to understand how well the solution works,

SPEAKER_00: how much value it created.

SPEAKER_00: They're asking questions, can we see your data?

SPEAKER_00: Can we understand the value?

SPEAKER_00: We are very clear that where we are creating value,

SPEAKER_00: we would like to see that benefit be returned

SPEAKER_00: to our customers who helped enable that value.

SPEAKER_00: This partnership allows us to do that.

SPEAKER_00: Where other utilities adopt this technology,

SPEAKER_00: we actually have a return on that investment

SPEAKER_00: and are able to monetize the intellectual property

SPEAKER_00: that was developed in that way.

SPEAKER_00: There's a follow-on benefit.

SPEAKER_00: Because we have very unique needs

SPEAKER_00: to achieve our very aggressive goals,

SPEAKER_00: we're able to work with these partnerships

SPEAKER_00: and these partners to make sure that the technologies

SPEAKER_00: and solutions that we need

SPEAKER_00: are at the top of their priority list.

SPEAKER_00: If we're looking at managing a high volume

SPEAKER_00: of distributed energy resources

SPEAKER_00: and that's the most important thing for us,

SPEAKER_00: we can work with these partners to make sure

SPEAKER_00: that that's the most important thing for them.

SPEAKER_00: So it's not just getting that return on investment.

SPEAKER_00: It's doing everything that we can

SPEAKER_00: to continue to accelerate the timeline

SPEAKER_00: without taking on additional costs

SPEAKER_00: to provide that acceleration.

Unknown: With Uplight, this now marks the second year

SPEAKER_00: where we've continued to see a proliferation of technologies

SPEAKER_00: on the SMUD Energy Store.

SPEAKER_00: And when devices and technology are purchased

SPEAKER_00: from the SMUD Energy Store,

SPEAKER_00: a portion of that spending comes back to SMUD

SPEAKER_00: and enables us to continue to reinvest

SPEAKER_00: in these innovative projects and solutions.

SPEAKER_00: Now when you log on to the website,

SPEAKER_00: you'll actually see sales.

SPEAKER_00: You'll see discounts related directly to rebates.

SPEAKER_00: You'll see an easy path to enrollment into our programs,

SPEAKER_00: really making it as simple as possible

SPEAKER_00: for customers to be part of the energy transition

SPEAKER_00: and really living up to what it means

SPEAKER_00: when you sign up to join the charge.

SPEAKER_00: SEW is our software and application

SPEAKER_00: platform development partner,

SPEAKER_00: helping us develop things like our commercial customer portal

SPEAKER_00: and also more recently working with us on the development

SPEAKER_00: of our electric vehicle charging app.

SPEAKER_00: Similar to the relationship with SEW,

SPEAKER_00: we're developing leading technology in this space.

SPEAKER_00: And as other utilities are adopting that technology,

SPEAKER_00: there's a benefit that comes back to SMUD

SPEAKER_00: and we're making sure that the priorities

SPEAKER_00: that they're developing are the ones

SPEAKER_00: that align with our local needs.

SPEAKER_00: Jumping down to the next slide here,

SPEAKER_00: we talked a little bit about ESS already.

SPEAKER_00: So I want to touch again on the fact that throughout 2024,

SPEAKER_00: we did do full testing and operational qualification

SPEAKER_00: of the six energy warehouse systems.

SPEAKER_00: Again, that project and pilot has since concluded

SPEAKER_00: and the flow batteries have now been removed

SPEAKER_00: from that site.

SPEAKER_00: And then the last partnership here that I want to touch on

SPEAKER_00: is our partnership with Itron.

SPEAKER_00: Itron is the technology partner on our grip grant.

SPEAKER_00: We're deploying approximately 200 grid edge

SPEAKER_00: smart metering devices, upgrading meters for customers,

SPEAKER_00: that it gives us higher visibility

SPEAKER_00: and a more deep integration

SPEAKER_00: with the distributed energy resources,

SPEAKER_00: the ability to integrate with batteries,

SPEAKER_00: the ability to operate and control and interface

SPEAKER_00: with electric vehicles for managed charging,

SPEAKER_00: and really to do that compute

SPEAKER_00: and to have that computational power

SPEAKER_00: at the edge of the grid,

SPEAKER_00: rather than all of that information

SPEAKER_00: from those thousands and thousands of endpoints

SPEAKER_00: trying to travel back to a central point,

SPEAKER_00: making local decisions,

SPEAKER_00: and then moving that communication back out,

SPEAKER_00: using that grid edge technology

SPEAKER_00: to enhance the speed of decision making

SPEAKER_00: and the quality of decision making with higher visibility

SPEAKER_00: and really being an industry leader in that space.

SPEAKER_00: Our relationship with Itron is similar to that of SEW

SPEAKER_00: and Aspen Tech,

SPEAKER_00: where we have that co-development opportunity

SPEAKER_00: and that joint sales benefit

SPEAKER_00: when other utilities adopt the same technologies

SPEAKER_00: that SMUD supported the development of.

Unknown: We also, kind of moving,

SPEAKER_00: we first talked about grants,

SPEAKER_00: we then talked about partners,

SPEAKER_00: moving to the service provider side of the conversation.

SPEAKER_00: We've now entered into our seventh year of operation

SPEAKER_00: as a community choice aggregator service provider.

SPEAKER_00: Our community energy services team

SPEAKER_00: is now serving seven of the state's 25 CCAs.

SPEAKER_00: That represents 2.7 million additional meters

SPEAKER_00: that we are providing service to,

SPEAKER_00: and that includes 11 major service offerings.

SPEAKER_00: Things like EV detection, things like debt collection,

SPEAKER_00: things like billing, we provide to those CCA clients.

SPEAKER_00: And as we continue to look ahead,

SPEAKER_00: we are looking forward to opportunities

SPEAKER_00: to continue to expand the value of the intellectual property

SPEAKER_00: that we've developed in this space.

SPEAKER_00: Additionally, wanna take a look at the work

SPEAKER_00: that CalEpic has been doing.

SPEAKER_00: In past years, this has been presented on

SPEAKER_00: under the name California Mobility Center.

SPEAKER_00: This last year, they've rebranded to CalEpic,

SPEAKER_00: the California Energy Power and Innovation Collaborative.

SPEAKER_00: Their work is significantly more focused on technology,

SPEAKER_00: energy power, batteries, and the energy ecosystem

SPEAKER_00: than just electric vehicles and mobility.

SPEAKER_00: And so the rebranding really helps communicate

SPEAKER_00: that broader scope that they're trying to take on.

SPEAKER_00: A significant amount of their impact

SPEAKER_00: is centered around their workforce development

SPEAKER_00: and career development initiatives.

SPEAKER_00: They've now trained over 700 individuals

SPEAKER_00: through their workforce development program.

SPEAKER_00: About 10% of those have been directly placed

SPEAKER_00: into full-time careers, living wage careers,

SPEAKER_00: permanent careers, job advancement careers.

SPEAKER_00: This also provides inroads with high school level training

SPEAKER_00: to help individual students make the decision

SPEAKER_00: between things like trade school or community college

SPEAKER_00: or going to full university

SPEAKER_00: and pursuing an engineering degree

SPEAKER_00: to exist as an engineer in this energy space

SPEAKER_00: and this exciting new area of technology.

SPEAKER_00: And also working with individuals who may be in positions

SPEAKER_00: where upscaling is necessary for them to continue

SPEAKER_00: to develop in their role.

SPEAKER_00: So really being a centerpiece

SPEAKER_00: for that type of workforce development and training.

SPEAKER_00: They are providing and helping deliver

SPEAKER_00: the Rivian Technical Trades Program,

SPEAKER_00: which is a program run by Rivian out of their facility.

SPEAKER_00: It is a 15 week paid internship program

SPEAKER_00: that Rivian uses to train their technicians.

SPEAKER_00: They train here in Sacramento and Rivian then deploys those

SPEAKER_00: across the Western United States to all of their locations.

SPEAKER_00: So they've become a hub for that level

SPEAKER_00: of job creation and training.

SPEAKER_00: Very exciting work and opportunities.

SPEAKER_00: And it's reflected in the grant success

SPEAKER_00: that they've had more recently.

SPEAKER_00: In the last year, they've achieved $5.3 million

SPEAKER_00: in grant funding.

SPEAKER_00: Most recently, $4 million

SPEAKER_00: from the California Energy Commission

SPEAKER_00: to become the preferred EVSE testing partner

SPEAKER_00: in qualification so that they can help test the standards

SPEAKER_00: for EV chargers for the state of California.

SPEAKER_00: And additionally, reflective of the good work

SPEAKER_00: that they're doing on workforce development,

SPEAKER_00: you'll see significant investment from local foundations

SPEAKER_00: and funding to support the workforce development

SPEAKER_00: and training that they're doing.

SPEAKER_00: An area that we're very, very excited about.

SPEAKER_00: In summary, that three year look back

SPEAKER_00: and the combination of those portfolios,

SPEAKER_00: we've had a gross revenue of about $16 million

SPEAKER_00: with about $14 million of expense.

SPEAKER_00: We've netted revenue of $2.7 million profit

SPEAKER_00: that helps contribute to advancing

SPEAKER_00: and accelerating our zero carbon objectives.

SPEAKER_00: When we roll that into a three year look back summary,

SPEAKER_00: those revenues and expenses translate into $8 million

SPEAKER_00: of revenue from our technology

SPEAKER_00: and new business development initiatives.

SPEAKER_00: In conclusion, I request that the board put on

SPEAKER_00: to the consent calendar acceptance

SPEAKER_00: of the SD19 monitoring report.

SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much James.

SPEAKER_02: You pack a lot into a presentation

SPEAKER_02: and I'm always so impressed.

SPEAKER_02: I do wanna say that a couple things

SPEAKER_02: that I find really exciting is,

SPEAKER_02: and make sure the public understands this too,

SPEAKER_02: that the money, we have a, there was a law passed actually

SPEAKER_02: so that SMUD could benefit from the partnerships

SPEAKER_02: with innovators just like a business

SPEAKER_02: so that we can actually keep our rates low.

SPEAKER_02: So when we use rate payer data or we give information

SPEAKER_02: and we're working back and forth with a new company

SPEAKER_02: in research, we can actually benefit financially from that

SPEAKER_02: which means we can keep our rates lower

SPEAKER_02: and we can spend that money innovating more.

SPEAKER_02: So we're very lucky to be able to do it

SPEAKER_02: and you're doing a great job

SPEAKER_02: if we're ending up $8 million positive

SPEAKER_02: over the last few years, that's amazing.

SPEAKER_02: And then CalEpic, it's really nice to hear

SPEAKER_02: that they're doing well and I like the rebranded name.

SPEAKER_02: Mobility Center, I wasn't quite sure what that meant.

SPEAKER_02: So CalEpic, it's great.

SPEAKER_08: I'm not sure, I know what that is but okay.

SPEAKER_08: Well the name, it's an acronym, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: So I really do like it.

SPEAKER_02: Anyway, I'll go ahead and turn it over to Director Herbert.

SPEAKER_08: I just wanted to say, I don't like the CalEpic name

SPEAKER_08: but nobody asked me when they named these places,

SPEAKER_08: even Mosak, I wanted you to name something else

SPEAKER_08: but that turned out pretty good.

SPEAKER_08: I just wanna say, I'm so glad that we're continuing

SPEAKER_08: to look at ways to do other things.

SPEAKER_08: Money is gonna dry up in the next four years

SPEAKER_08: for a lot of the more innovative things

SPEAKER_08: that we wanted to do but we're gonna have to get smarter

SPEAKER_08: and do things differently and I feel a lot of confidence

SPEAKER_08: in your team in looking for those solutions.

SPEAKER_08: So thank you.

SPEAKER_02: Any other comments from board members?

SPEAKER_02: Okay and I will say, I just found out

SPEAKER_02: about a new company today that I am about ready

SPEAKER_02: to send through the board office

SPEAKER_02: on green hydrogen development in ways

SPEAKER_02: that are way more environmentally friendly

SPEAKER_02: so I will be passing that along.

SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much for the presentation.

SPEAKER_02: This will go on the consent calendar.

SPEAKER_02: Oh sorry, public comment.

SPEAKER_02: Are there any public comments?

SPEAKER_02: Online?

SPEAKER_02: I don't see anybody in the room?

SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't see any hands.

SPEAKER_12: Just giving it a second, so no.

SPEAKER_02: Sorry, I think we're done, thank you.

SPEAKER_02: No, I appreciate that, okay.

SPEAKER_02: So we'll go ahead now and move on to agenda item four

SPEAKER_02: which is the board monitoring of governance process eight,

Unknown: board committee principles, GP 10

SPEAKER_02: which is the board training orientation

SPEAKER_02: and GP 15 which is board travel and training reimbursement.

SPEAKER_02: And I believe we've scored, I think,

SPEAKER_02: I find, so this was a comment made by a board member.

SPEAKER_02: I find that ad hoc board committees are discouraged

SPEAKER_02: by staff.

SPEAKER_02: Is there, are there any board members online or present

SPEAKER_02: that wish to discuss that?

SPEAKER_08: Well I just wanna say that there's really only two of us here

SPEAKER_08: and what I do when I listen,

SPEAKER_08: when I look at that, actually there's three

SPEAKER_08: because director Bowie Thompson is online.

SPEAKER_08: I do find that ad hoc board committees are discouraged.

SPEAKER_08: I'm not saying that I want us to necessarily

SPEAKER_08: do anything differently.

SPEAKER_08: When I've talked to Paul about different ad hoc committees

SPEAKER_08: that I'd like to see, he pretty much talks me out of it.

SPEAKER_08: So that's just my opinion.

SPEAKER_08: That's all I don't really expect anybody to do anything.

SPEAKER_02: Okay.

SPEAKER_02: Then we will just go ahead and move on

SPEAKER_02: and the compliance scores are high on the principles

SPEAKER_02: and this I assume is the same comment from you

SPEAKER_02: on this one too.

SPEAKER_02: So nothing to do with it, just noting.

SPEAKER_02: Okay, so we go ahead and move on.

SPEAKER_02: I don't think there are any other,

SPEAKER_02: the compliance is high on this one

SPEAKER_02: and again we're not gonna read all of this

SPEAKER_02: if everybody on the board agrees it was fine

SPEAKER_02: and we're in compliance.

SPEAKER_02: So I think that was it.

SPEAKER_02: Yeah, seven.

SPEAKER_02: So are there any public comments

SPEAKER_02: on these strategic directives?

Unknown: They would have had to have read the slides.

SPEAKER_02: There is not.

SPEAKER_12: There's no comments.

SPEAKER_12: Okay, so I think with that we will go ahead

SPEAKER_02: and close that item four if we have no public comments

Unknown: and move on to the board work plan

SPEAKER_02: and that is simply going through where we are with the,

SPEAKER_02: I can't believe it, we're in the last quarter of the year,

Unknown: moving pretty quickly.

SPEAKER_02: We've got some nuclear update coming up,

SPEAKER_02: EV charging strategy is gonna be on November 11th,

SPEAKER_02: election of officers coming up for next year on November 12th

SPEAKER_02: and then just our last three board meetings in December

SPEAKER_02: which are important because we've got the natural solutions

SPEAKER_02: and carbon offsets and the budget discussion.

SPEAKER_02: The big, that's the big one.

SPEAKER_02: So, and in the parking lot we have the need

SPEAKER_02: for local generation for liability purposes.

SPEAKER_02: That's something hopefully we'll see in the future

SPEAKER_02: and then memos, challenges and opportunities

SPEAKER_02: with interconnecting large loads.

SPEAKER_02: I think that's a memo that's coming.

SPEAKER_02: So we can look for that.

SPEAKER_02: I know that's really close to coming

SPEAKER_12: because I've seen a draft of it.

SPEAKER_12: So very, very soon you should receive that.

SPEAKER_02: Thank you.

SPEAKER_02: Are there any other board member comments on the work plan

SPEAKER_02: or any public comments?

SPEAKER_12: No public comments.

SPEAKER_02: Okay, and we will close out the work plan

SPEAKER_02: and we will move now to public comment

SPEAKER_02: for items that are not on the agenda

SPEAKER_02: and we have several people from the public here today

SPEAKER_02: that have given their cards.

SPEAKER_02: Thank you for sitting through the meeting.

SPEAKER_02: I hope you found it informational.

SPEAKER_02: We're glad you're here and again,

SPEAKER_02: when people come to speak to us,

SPEAKER_02: we're always glad to hear you.

SPEAKER_02: We'll give you three minutes each

SPEAKER_02: and we cannot go back and forth on items

SPEAKER_02: that are not on the agenda.

SPEAKER_02: So, but we do appreciate the input and having you here.

SPEAKER_02: So I think Pat Ferris is first from Third Act Sacramento.

Unknown: Can I go up here?

SPEAKER_08: Yes.

SPEAKER_08: The third one.

SPEAKER_08: Yes.

SPEAKER_01: Thank you.

SPEAKER_01: Pat Ferris, long time resident of Sacramento,

SPEAKER_01: founding member of Third Act Sacramento,

SPEAKER_01: concentrating on climate and democracy.

SPEAKER_01: And we're here tonight,

SPEAKER_01: especially to ask the policy committee

SPEAKER_01: to recommend to the full board

SPEAKER_01: that they endorse the polluters pay super fund bill,

SPEAKER_01: which is going through both houses

SPEAKER_01: of the legislature right now.

SPEAKER_01: I wanna describe very briefly

SPEAKER_01: what the benefits to the community would be

SPEAKER_01: and the benefits to SMUD

SPEAKER_01: as you're here to benefit the community.

SPEAKER_01: The polluters pay climate super fund act

SPEAKER_01: will assess compensatory fees

SPEAKER_01: on the world's largest fossil fuel polluters,

SPEAKER_01: climate polluters,

SPEAKER_01: to remedy the damage their emissions have caused the state.

SPEAKER_01: A climate super fund provides revenue

SPEAKER_01: to recover from, build resilience against,

SPEAKER_01: adapt to and mitigate climate damage.

SPEAKER_01: In an atmosphere where federal dollars

SPEAKER_01: are not as forthcoming as we imagine,

SPEAKER_01: and where city and county budgets are really impacted,

SPEAKER_01: and when we need more climate resilience

SPEAKER_01: and more climate investment,

SPEAKER_01: the super fund bill, if passed,

SPEAKER_01: would provide a new revenue source dearly needed.

SPEAKER_01: Some of the benefits to the community would be

SPEAKER_01: funding disaster recovery and response,

SPEAKER_01: energy efficiency and resiliency,

SPEAKER_01: decarbonization, does that sound familiar,

SPEAKER_01: community resilience and support for essential workers.

SPEAKER_01: These investments can help save utility costs

SPEAKER_01: for California families, schools and local governments

SPEAKER_01: and insulate state and local budgets

SPEAKER_01: against escalating climate disasters.

SPEAKER_01: With this fund, we can invest in California's future,

SPEAKER_01: respond to climate catastrophes,

SPEAKER_01: build climate resilient neighborhoods

SPEAKER_01: and sustainable infrastructure with efficiencies

SPEAKER_01: for greater affordability.

SPEAKER_01: We can spur economic growth with thousands of good jobs

SPEAKER_01: and support workers suffering from climate related harms.

SPEAKER_01: If SMUD is looking for additional funding

SPEAKER_01: to assure that your aggressive

SPEAKER_01: and very critically important goals are attained,

SPEAKER_01: and also to support the city in its climate plans,

SPEAKER_01: supporting the polluters pay super fund act

SPEAKER_01: would be a way to do that.

SPEAKER_02: Thank you, appreciate your comments.

SPEAKER_02: And our next commenter is Goli.

SPEAKER_02: Well, I know he was Goli, but the way it's spelled,

SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure, Shava MD with third act Sacramento.

Unknown: Doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_10: Goli, why don't you go over to the next slide.

SPEAKER_02: Sorry.

SPEAKER_10: That's quite right.

SPEAKER_10: We didn't hand them in.

SPEAKER_09: Good evening, Chair Sanborn, Vice Chair Herber

SPEAKER_09: and CEO's Lau as well as staff.

SPEAKER_09: My name is Goli Saba.

SPEAKER_09: I'm a retired family physician

Unknown: and facilitator for third act Sacramento.

SPEAKER_09: We have a problem.

SPEAKER_09: The problem is that climate change is accelerating

SPEAKER_09: as you all well know.

Unknown: And our city and county don't have the funds

SPEAKER_09: to implement the climate action plans

SPEAKER_09: and their climate emergency declaration goals

SPEAKER_09: from 2019 like SMUD has been implementing.

SPEAKER_09: So what's the solution?

SPEAKER_09: The solution is the bills that Pat just talked about,

SPEAKER_09: SB 684 and AB 1243.

SPEAKER_09: Because if you think about it,

SPEAKER_09: who should be paying for the cost of climate disasters?

SPEAKER_09: The LA fires, as you know, are estimated to have cost,

SPEAKER_09: to cost between 250 and 275 billion dollars.

SPEAKER_09: And that's more than the budget of California in one year.

SPEAKER_09: And California's already been paying with their health,

SPEAKER_09: with their taxes, with their higher insurance

SPEAKER_09: and some with their lives.

SPEAKER_09: And this would just make the oil companies

SPEAKER_09: that have literally caused so much of the problem

SPEAKER_09: to actually pay their fair share.

SPEAKER_09: And there's over 160 nonprofits, businesses, and unions

SPEAKER_09: who are supporting these bills.

SPEAKER_09: The oil companies like to say,

SPEAKER_09: oh, give the talking points, oh, it's dead.

SPEAKER_09: It's not dead.

SPEAKER_09: It's now a two year bill,

SPEAKER_09: and in January it's going to be coming up.

SPEAKER_09: And we're all over California working on this.

SPEAKER_09: So we already have multiple cities and counties

SPEAKER_09: that have passed resolutions supporting this,

SPEAKER_09: including Berkeley, LA, San Diego, Oxnard,

SPEAKER_09: County of San Francisco, Laguna Beach,

SPEAKER_09: County of Santa Cruz, and others.

SPEAKER_09: We have significant union support.

SPEAKER_09: California Federation of Teachers,

SPEAKER_09: California Nurses Association,

SPEAKER_09: there's multiple I could go on and on.

SPEAKER_09: Now what we need is bold elected leaders

SPEAKER_09: that listen to and respond to the issues

SPEAKER_09: that the community is facing.

SPEAKER_09: Leaders that are true to SMUD's stated vision,

SPEAKER_09: and I'm gonna quote just a section of it,

SPEAKER_09: from your website, SMUD will leverage its relationships

SPEAKER_09: to accelerate innovation, ensure energy affordability,

SPEAKER_09: reliability, protect the environment, and on and on,

SPEAKER_09: but promote environmental justice.

SPEAKER_09: So this key thing to leverage its relationships,

SPEAKER_09: it's already there.

SPEAKER_09: We also need leaders that follow SMUD's core values,

SPEAKER_09: and I'm sure you guys have this memorized,

SPEAKER_09: but I'm just gonna quote little section.

SPEAKER_09: Thing number A says promoting equity

SPEAKER_09: within SMUD's diverse communities.

SPEAKER_09: These bills set aside 40% of the funds

SPEAKER_09: to benefit communities hit hardest

SPEAKER_09: by the fossil fuel companies.

SPEAKER_09: And I know I'm running out of time,

SPEAKER_09: I just wanna mention that SMUD's climate emergency

SPEAKER_09: declaration from 2021 already supports taking action

SPEAKER_09: on laws such as this, and this is my last sentence,

SPEAKER_09: I'm sorry, whereas collaborative partnerships

SPEAKER_09: with SMUD customers, community government agencies,

SPEAKER_09: community leaders and organizations, businesses,

SPEAKER_09: they will collaborate so that they can leverage

SPEAKER_09: opportunities to achieve rapid transformative reductions

SPEAKER_09: in GHG emissions.

SPEAKER_09: So we ask you please to support this bill.

SPEAKER_09: Thank you, appreciate it.

SPEAKER_09: To send a letter to support this bill, thank you.

SPEAKER_02: Thank you, and we'll put it in the record,

SPEAKER_02: and send it to the board members.

SPEAKER_02: And Raylian?

SPEAKER_02: Are you next?

SPEAKER_02: I don't know your name or I'd pull your card up.

SPEAKER_02: Ruth, okay, we'll get you next.

SPEAKER_07: Hi, my name is Raylian Farris,

SPEAKER_07: and I'm with Third Act Sacramento.

SPEAKER_07: And I just wanna say I am in support

SPEAKER_07: of the Make Polluters Pay Superfund Act.

SPEAKER_07: And I'm asking the policy committee, all of you today,

SPEAKER_07: to recommend to the full board, please,

SPEAKER_07: that they endorse the Polluters Pay Superfund Act.

SPEAKER_07: Thank you very much for your consideration.

SPEAKER_07: Thank you, Raylian.

SPEAKER_02: And Ruth, is patiently waited.

SPEAKER_10: Good evening, Ruth Holton-Hudson,

SPEAKER_10: and I'm with Third Act Sacramento.

SPEAKER_10: And thank you so much.

SPEAKER_10: I must say I am so excited by the reports, SD9 and 10.

SPEAKER_10: But as you heard from the reports,

Unknown: federal funding has gone away.

Unknown: The state is also, as you know, in a deficit.

SPEAKER_10: The city is in a deficit.

Unknown: And so you might ask, why is it so important

SPEAKER_10: that we get smud to endorse

SPEAKER_10: this particular piece of legislation?

SPEAKER_10: So this legislation has passed in both Vermont and New York.

Unknown: And what put it over the top in New York

SPEAKER_10: was municipalities throughout the state of New York

SPEAKER_10: telling the legislature, we need these resources

SPEAKER_10: to make our plans and to meet our goals.

SPEAKER_10: Sacramento has a terrific climate action plan.

SPEAKER_10: You have a terrific climate action plan,

SPEAKER_10: a model for the state and the nation.

SPEAKER_10: These plans are not gonna go into effect,

SPEAKER_10: or will barely go into effect without resources.

SPEAKER_10: This is the one new revenue source.

SPEAKER_10: And the legislature needs to hear,

SPEAKER_10: and your local legislators need to hear,

SPEAKER_10: that smud, the city of Sacramento,

SPEAKER_10: all the governmental entities in Sacramento

SPEAKER_10: support this so that Sacramento can continue to be a leader,

SPEAKER_10: and smud especially can continue to be a leader

SPEAKER_10: in the implementation of these climate adaption plans.

SPEAKER_10: So we are talking to the city.

SPEAKER_10: They're very positive.

SPEAKER_10: And since the city already has many climate goals

SPEAKER_10: in its 2025 policy statement,

Unknown: all they need to do is write a letter in support.

SPEAKER_10: And so that's what we're talking to them about.

SPEAKER_10: We don't even need to have a resolution.

SPEAKER_10: And it would be fabulous for both the city then

SPEAKER_10: to write a letter of support,

Unknown: and for smud to write a letter of support.

SPEAKER_10: As Goley said, we've got Los Angeles, we have San Jose,

SPEAKER_10: we have San Diego, and San Francisco,

SPEAKER_10: and nine other jurisdictions,

SPEAKER_10: and we're talking to 20 others.

SPEAKER_10: We need it all done before January.

Unknown: And so, and both of the bills are in

SPEAKER_10: their respective judiciary committees,

Unknown: but they need to hear from jurisdictions around the state

Unknown: to say, this is really important to us.

SPEAKER_10: Right now they've heard from all the good guy groups

SPEAKER_10: and all the health groups,

SPEAKER_10: they need to hear from municipalities.

SPEAKER_10: So please would be wonderful if you could urge

SPEAKER_10: your fellow board meeting members

SPEAKER_10: to support a letter in support of Make Perleutis Pay.

SPEAKER_10: Thank you.

SPEAKER_10: Thank you, Ruth.

SPEAKER_02: Next speaker is Catherine Keeney.

SPEAKER_11: Hi, also here from Third Act.

SPEAKER_11: I'm very grateful to smud.

SPEAKER_11: I have electrified my house and as many other people.

SPEAKER_11: So I've got my skin in the game,

SPEAKER_11: and I think everyone needs to.

SPEAKER_11: It's an emergency.

SPEAKER_11: And it's not fair as a smud customer.

SPEAKER_11: I don't think it's fair that you and I are paying for this

SPEAKER_11: and the other, and then these huge large polluters

SPEAKER_11: are getting off scot-free.

SPEAKER_11: So it's important that they pay as well.

SPEAKER_11: And is it gonna hurt them?

SPEAKER_11: It will hurt them, I think.

SPEAKER_11: Maybe it won't, I don't know.

SPEAKER_11: But in any case, it hurt me too.

SPEAKER_11: Okay, and it's hurting you

SPEAKER_11: because you're having to support it all.

SPEAKER_11: So I am specifically asking you to please write

SPEAKER_11: a letter of support to go along with our other letters.

Unknown: Yes, I guess my final comment is,

SPEAKER_11: I'm very concerned about climate change.

SPEAKER_11: It needs to, our work on it has to happen ASAP.

SPEAKER_11: It's an emergency and there is no time to wait.

SPEAKER_11: We need every dollar we can put towards it.

SPEAKER_11: I'm speaking on behalf of my grandchildren,

SPEAKER_11: ages year and a half and six, and their children.

SPEAKER_11: And even us, selfishly, it's us.

SPEAKER_11: We're gonna be feeling the heat.

SPEAKER_11: We're already feeling the heat.

SPEAKER_11: We're gonna be feeling it more and more.

SPEAKER_11: So we need to take advantage of every revenue source,

SPEAKER_11: and that's why we're here tonight.

SPEAKER_11: Thank you.

SPEAKER_02: Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_02: And our last speaker is Sally Kelligan.

SPEAKER_02: The third act, welcome, Sally.

SPEAKER_06: Thank you.

SPEAKER_06: I was gonna talk on that same topic, but anyway,

SPEAKER_06: I really appreciate SMUD.

SPEAKER_06: Thank you.

SPEAKER_06: I come from LA and I came up here about nine years ago now,

SPEAKER_06: and I could not believe SMUD.

SPEAKER_06: You're a nonprofit utility that demonstrates

SPEAKER_06: a world conscientiousness in your policy decisions.

SPEAKER_06: You're enlightened, I love your surveys,

SPEAKER_06: I love that you let me know when something's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_06: You let me show my support by contributing

SPEAKER_06: on my monthly bills, so you have everything lined up

SPEAKER_06: that I feel grateful towards you about.

SPEAKER_06: I had liked Sacramento Tree previously,

SPEAKER_06: but I'll explain a little bit more about why

SPEAKER_06: I'm gravely disappointed with both of you.

SPEAKER_06: I'm devastated, I could ball.

SPEAKER_06: I started finding out about the Coyote Solar Project,

SPEAKER_06: SMUD's project, last week.

SPEAKER_06: I started doing research,

SPEAKER_06: and I attended Monday's Sacramento County

SPEAKER_06: Planning Commission.

SPEAKER_06: The location you have chosen will require cutting down

SPEAKER_06: 3,500 mature blue oaks, which UC Davis estimates

SPEAKER_06: to be between 175 and 400 years old.

SPEAKER_06: So you're gonna put up a solar project

Unknown: by destroying that many trees.

SPEAKER_06: Spalding of American River trees states that from 50 years ago,

SPEAKER_06: our area has only 10% of its riparian,

SPEAKER_06: I don't really know how to say that, riparian,

SPEAKER_06: forests remaining.

SPEAKER_06: From 1975, we have 10% of this type of forest

SPEAKER_06: remaining in our area, and your company,

SPEAKER_06: your organization, which I greatly admire,

SPEAKER_06: is saying chop the suckers down.

Unknown: Besides the forest, where you wanna put your project,

SPEAKER_06: is in the midst of gorgeous, expansive,

Unknown: green recreational farmlands.

SPEAKER_06: This tragic project would irreparably damage

SPEAKER_06: the area's ecosystem, plants, animals, insects,

SPEAKER_06: and very importantly, go back on your own goals.

SPEAKER_06: As you're gonna disrupt this forest's normal carbon

SPEAKER_06: sequist, thank you.

SPEAKER_06: Okay, so how can you compare the value of this forest

SPEAKER_06: versus about 35 years, because I guess your solar panels

SPEAKER_06: have a certain lifetime?

SPEAKER_06: Okay, so I can see I'm running out of time.

SPEAKER_06: So please review this also.

Unknown: Your plan says that you're gonna have a replacement.

SPEAKER_06: These trees take a very long time to grow,

SPEAKER_06: and they're probably not able to grow

SPEAKER_06: in our current climate, okay?

SPEAKER_06: So 175 to 400 years old cannot be replaced.

Unknown: They grow about this big in a year.

SPEAKER_06: In seven years, they may be this big.

SPEAKER_06: 25% of them die.

SPEAKER_06: Your program is going to replace them with 25% more,

SPEAKER_06: knowing that 25% are gonna die,

SPEAKER_06: and most of them aren't even gonna make it.

SPEAKER_06: Please review and look into this.

SPEAKER_02: Thank you, I just wanna clarify one thing,

SPEAKER_02: just for the record, you kept saying you, you, you.

SPEAKER_02: It's not our project.

SPEAKER_02: It was about buying the power from it.

SPEAKER_02: So I'm gonna turn to our attorney,

SPEAKER_02: because this is, we have to be very careful

SPEAKER_02: about the wording and making sure it's accurate.

SPEAKER_02: So on both issues, I'm gonna stop,

SPEAKER_02: because we can't go back and forth

SPEAKER_02: and let our attorney speak.

SPEAKER_12: Laura Lewis, Chief Legal and Government Affairs Officer,

SPEAKER_12: I'll address the first, the last issue first,

SPEAKER_12: which is the Coyote Creek Project.

SPEAKER_12: We do have an obligation under a power purchase agreement

SPEAKER_12: to purchase the power from that project,

SPEAKER_12: and that is simply our role,

SPEAKER_12: is to purchase the power from that project,

SPEAKER_12: contingent on that project,

SPEAKER_12: receiving all environmental approvals,

SPEAKER_12: and continuing along with the affordability metrics

SPEAKER_12: that we've been established by the board.

SPEAKER_12: So that is our role in that project.

SPEAKER_12: We are taking the power from that project as the off-taker.

SPEAKER_12: On the second item, on the polluters pay legislation,

SPEAKER_12: thank you again for expressing your interest

SPEAKER_12: in this legislation.

SPEAKER_12: We do appreciate the passion behind the efforts

SPEAKER_12: to address climate impacts and to hold polluters accountable.

SPEAKER_12: As you know, we do care deeply about the environment

SPEAKER_12: as an organization.

SPEAKER_12: It's reflected in our aggressive climate goals.

SPEAKER_12: But as a public utility,

SPEAKER_12: we're governed by strategic directives

SPEAKER_12: that center on reliability, affordability,

SPEAKER_12: and sustainability of our operations.

SPEAKER_12: And I know my staff did meet with Dr. Saba and Katie McCammon,

SPEAKER_12: hopefully I pronounced that correctly,

SPEAKER_12: last week to better understand this legislation

SPEAKER_12: and the way I understand it,

SPEAKER_12: the legislation really deals with broad environmental policy

SPEAKER_12: and not with issues that really directly impact

SPEAKER_12: our operations or our power supply.

SPEAKER_12: And that's typically the type of legislation

SPEAKER_12: we would weigh in on is something that really directs,

SPEAKER_12: directly impacts our operations or is really clearly aligned

SPEAKER_12: with our strategic directives.

SPEAKER_12: We typically don't weigh in on statewide policy matters.

SPEAKER_12: We receive and review hundreds of bills every year,

SPEAKER_12: as you can imagine.

SPEAKER_12: So we really try to be deliberate about how we use our voice.

SPEAKER_12: So we haven't weighed in on this legislation at this time.

SPEAKER_12: But that said, we're gonna continue to stay focused

SPEAKER_12: on delivering clean, reliable, affordable power

SPEAKER_12: for our customers.

SPEAKER_12: And we believe that's where we'll have the biggest impact.

SPEAKER_12: So that's where we are on that legislation

SPEAKER_12: at this point in time.

SPEAKER_12: So thank you very much.

SPEAKER_02: We really appreciate public comment

SPEAKER_02: and people taking the time to come here.

SPEAKER_02: It means a lot to us that we have this many people

SPEAKER_02: in the service territory that care so much.

SPEAKER_02: And again, we cannot talk back and forth about things

SPEAKER_02: that were not on the agenda, so we cannot do that.

SPEAKER_02: So with that, I think we are at the end of the meeting.

SPEAKER_02: Have we got any other requests to speak?

SPEAKER_10: I see any now.

SPEAKER_02: Okay, written comments received on items not on the agenda

SPEAKER_02: will be included in the record if received within two hours

SPEAKER_02: of the end of the meeting.

SPEAKER_02: And that is the last item on the agenda.

SPEAKER_02: So with that, the committee is.

SPEAKER_08: Wait a minute.

SPEAKER_08: Don't you call for follow up?

SPEAKER_02: Somebody in the direction.

SPEAKER_08: Yes, somebody. Oh, sorry, committee direction.

SPEAKER_08: Yes.

SPEAKER_12: Yes, we did have one item.

SPEAKER_12: And that staff will provide information

SPEAKER_12: on what we need to do to clarify

SPEAKER_12: for the Be Better Electric Certification.

SPEAKER_08: Thank you.

SPEAKER_12: Sorry about that.

SPEAKER_02: Thank you for that.

SPEAKER_02: All right, thank you so much.

SPEAKER_02: Everybody have a good night.