WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.060 Unknown: you 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:32.060 Unknown: you 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:02.060 Unknown: you 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:32.060 Unknown: you 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:02.060 Unknown: you 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.060 Unknown: you 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:02.060 Unknown: you 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:32.060 Unknown: you 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:02.060 Unknown: you 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:32.060 Unknown: you 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:02.060 Unknown: you 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:32.060 Unknown: you 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:02.060 Unknown: you 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:58.980 Unknown: good evening 00:06:58.980 --> 00:07:05.620 SPEAKER_01: and welcome to the Policy Committee and Special Board Meeting of April 7, 2026. 00:07:06.259 --> 00:07:13.220 SPEAKER_01: This room is equipped with a safety alarm. If the alarm sounds, please leave in an orderly manner 00:07:13.780 --> 00:07:20.180 SPEAKER_01: via the exits to the lobby or behind the dais. 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Dr. Rose? Here. Chair Herber? Here. All committee members are present. Also present are 00:09:03.059 --> 00:09:09.539 SPEAKER_10: directors Buie Thompson, Fishman, Sam Borden, and President Tamayo. Very good. Item number one is the 00:09:09.539 --> 00:09:18.419 SPEAKER_01: sole discussion item on tonight's agenda and requires board action tonight. Item number one 00:09:18.419 --> 00:09:28.500 SPEAKER_01: is to approve the SMUD disclosure in the transmission agency of Northern California 00:09:29.139 --> 00:09:40.339 SPEAKER_01: or TANK, the primary official statement for the TANK 2026 refunding bonds and authorize the CEO 00:09:40.340 --> 00:09:46.899 SPEAKER_01: to determine that the information in the preliminary official statement is final. 00:09:48.259 --> 00:09:56.580 SPEAKER_01: Now we would like to bring forward Jennifer Restivo, our directory, our directory, God, 00:09:56.580 --> 00:10:03.139 SPEAKER_01: you're that too, but you're the director of Treasury and Revenue Strategy. 00:10:05.060 --> 00:10:09.620 Unknown: Thank you, Chair Herber, again, Jennifer Restivo, Director of Treasury and Revenue Strategy, 00:10:09.620 --> 00:10:13.379 Unknown: and thank you for doing that full mouthful because it is quite a lot to say. 00:10:14.740 --> 00:10:19.539 SPEAKER_08: So really I'm here tonight because SMUD is a member of the transmission agency of Northern 00:10:19.539 --> 00:10:23.299 SPEAKER_08: California. We lovingly refer to it as TANK because that's much easier to say. 00:10:24.259 --> 00:10:29.460 SPEAKER_08: And TANK is a joint power authority that was created to build and operate a transmission line 00:10:29.460 --> 00:10:34.419 SPEAKER_08: that goes from the California-Oregon border into California. It's known as the COTP line, 00:10:34.419 --> 00:10:41.059 SPEAKER_08: California-Oregon transmission project. SMUD is a member of TANK, so as part of that we get our 00:10:41.059 --> 00:10:48.099 SPEAKER_08: power from up north through that transmission line, the low and carbon free power from the northwest. 00:10:48.099 --> 00:10:53.139 SPEAKER_08: And so just as you have the opportunity sometimes to refinance your home mortgage, 00:10:53.139 --> 00:10:59.379 SPEAKER_08: because interest rates have changed, TANK has the opportunity to refinance its bonds that it issued 00:10:59.379 --> 00:11:05.700 SPEAKER_08: in 2016. And so obviously there's a lot of, if you've watched the news, there's a lot of 00:11:05.700 --> 00:11:12.259 SPEAKER_08: volatility in the markets at this point in time. And so the numbers I'm going to give you may not 00:11:12.259 --> 00:11:18.019 SPEAKER_08: come to fruition. The current estimate is that TANK will save up to $16 million or about $2 00:11:18.019 --> 00:11:23.779 SPEAKER_08: million a year in interest. SMUD as a member of TANK will get those savings passed on to us. 00:11:23.860 --> 00:11:29.459 SPEAKER_08: So that could be about $700,000 a year. Obviously there's a lot of volatility happening. 00:11:31.620 --> 00:11:38.419 Unknown: And so if for some reason that deal was not beneficial to TANK, they would not do the 00:11:38.419 --> 00:11:44.579 SPEAKER_08: transaction. So next week the TANK commission will be likely approving the official statement 00:11:44.579 --> 00:11:50.579 SPEAKER_08: disclosure and moving forward with that bond deal. And so we're asking for the SMUD board to approve 00:11:50.580 --> 00:11:56.740 SPEAKER_08: our SMUD disclosure being part of TANK's official statement because we are one of the five largest 00:11:56.740 --> 00:12:00.980 SPEAKER_08: members. And so therefore our disclosure is part of TANK's disclosure when they do a bond deal. 00:12:01.780 --> 00:12:07.940 SPEAKER_08: So our disclosure document has gone through a lot of review from lots of people across the 00:12:07.940 --> 00:12:16.020 SPEAKER_08: organization, Paul, executives, directors, and legal review. And so it is, and you've received 00:12:16.019 --> 00:12:20.899 SPEAKER_08: that. And so you have this, that document will be going into TANK's and then obviously we will 00:12:20.899 --> 00:12:27.460 SPEAKER_08: be able to reuse that document when we do our bond issuance later this year. Great. Well, once again, 00:12:28.019 --> 00:12:34.340 SPEAKER_01: you all in finance are saving us money, which is great. Are there questions from the board? 00:12:37.220 --> 00:12:43.059 Unknown: Just real quick, was the disclosure created for this purpose or are we using like last year's? 00:12:43.059 --> 00:12:47.139 Unknown: Will we start from last year's and then update it? And so will this then flow into some of our 00:12:47.139 --> 00:12:52.659 SPEAKER_02: work later this year? Yes. Yes. Timing-wise it should be, we should be able to reuse it for 00:12:52.659 --> 00:12:55.139 SPEAKER_08: SMUD bonds. They're always, if you ever, I wish to be able to be able to be able to 00:12:55.139 --> 00:12:59.939 SPEAKER_02: everyone at a single point of what's going on. It's a great document. So much information in there. 00:13:02.659 --> 00:13:11.459 Unknown: Okay. Seeing no other comments, do we need to have a motion? We need to have a motion to accept 00:13:13.059 --> 00:13:26.899 Unknown: the disclosure so that we can proceed with the TANK bond. Is there a second? 00:13:28.739 --> 00:13:35.539 Unknown: All those in favor say aye. We'll need to do a roll call though. Sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm 00:13:35.620 --> 00:13:44.819 SPEAKER_01: thinking I'm in my nonprofit group. Dr. Rose? Aye. Dr. B. Thompson? Yes. Dr. Fishman? Aye. Dr. 00:13:44.819 --> 00:13:53.539 SPEAKER_10: Herber? Yes. Vice President Kern? Aye. Dr. Samhorn? Aye. President Tamayo? Yes. The motion is approved. 00:13:55.059 --> 00:14:03.699 Unknown: Wonderful. And be sure and deliver some love from the SMUD board to Jim Shetler because he, 00:14:03.700 --> 00:14:12.180 SPEAKER_01: I bet he had something to do with this. Okay. Well, let me ask if we have, I haven't received 00:14:12.180 --> 00:14:20.980 SPEAKER_01: any cards about anyone who wants to testify. Chief legal officer, have we received any requests 00:14:22.020 --> 00:14:23.700 SPEAKER_01: from virtual attendees? 00:14:23.700 --> 00:14:44.660 SPEAKER_01: No. No, we're not. Okay. Great. Okay. So we've already done the motion, so we don't need to do 00:14:44.659 --> 00:14:54.819 SPEAKER_01: that, right? Okay. So item number two is to discuss the monitoring report for strategic 00:14:54.819 --> 00:15:06.579 SPEAKER_01: direction six, which is safety leadership. And the newly appointed Emily Bakhini, 00:15:07.779 --> 00:15:13.459 SPEAKER_01: director of safety, environmental, and real estate will make the presentation. 00:15:14.259 --> 00:15:21.139 Unknown: Thank you, Chair Herber. Good evening. My name is Emily Bakhini, and I am the director of safety, 00:15:21.139 --> 00:15:25.780 SPEAKER_00: environmental, and real estate services. And I'm happy to share tonight with you the monitoring 00:15:25.780 --> 00:15:31.139 SPEAKER_00: report for strategic direction six, safety leadership. This is, we come to the board twice 00:15:31.139 --> 00:15:41.300 SPEAKER_00: a year, so this is the second half of 2025. The first objective of SD6 is to reduce the number 00:15:41.299 --> 00:15:47.939 SPEAKER_00: of severe incidents that are with our, I'm sorry, reduce the number of severe incidents 00:15:48.899 --> 00:15:55.779 SPEAKER_00: that cause days away or restricted time. And the board limit for that in 2025 was 13. The 00:15:57.379 --> 00:16:07.059 SPEAKER_00: SD6 had a goal to reduce starts by 2025 to 13. And that goal was set in 2021, the year before we had 00:16:07.619 --> 00:16:14.979 SPEAKER_00: 26 darts. So the goal was set to reduce the number of darts by 50%. And I am happy to report that 00:16:15.619 --> 00:16:23.699 SPEAKER_00: we had 12 darts in 2025, although we never want to have any sort of workplace incident. 00:16:24.500 --> 00:16:30.579 SPEAKER_00: We had a total of 34 OSHA recordables, including those 12 darts. And then our dart rate was 5, 00:16:30.660 --> 00:16:37.780 SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, .54. And the industry standard is 1.2. The dart rate is calculated based off of the number 00:16:37.780 --> 00:16:43.780 SPEAKER_00: of dart incidents that we have relative to the total number of hours employees work. 00:16:45.220 --> 00:16:51.060 Unknown: You may recall when I was here about six months ago, we were taking a closer look at the data to 00:16:51.060 --> 00:16:56.180 SPEAKER_00: understand when our darts were occurring. And we found that the large majority of them are twice as 00:16:56.179 --> 00:17:05.460 SPEAKER_00: many occurred in the third quarter. So we had a special awareness campaign to work to reduce 00:17:05.460 --> 00:17:10.259 SPEAKER_00: or prevent that doubling of darts occurring in the third quarter. And we're successful in that. 00:17:11.220 --> 00:17:16.259 SPEAKER_00: We were able to increase that awareness around supporting your team members, making sure that 00:17:16.259 --> 00:17:22.819 SPEAKER_00: you had your head in the right space and were fit for duty, being mindful of other distractions, 00:17:22.819 --> 00:17:28.579 SPEAKER_00: avoiding complacency and reminding folks that they did have the right and the obligation to 00:17:28.579 --> 00:17:34.099 SPEAKER_00: stop work if the conditions changed or hazard presented itself. Question? 00:17:35.539 --> 00:17:40.179 SPEAKER_11: What do you think might cause people in the third quarter to just double the incidents? 00:17:42.019 --> 00:17:45.700 Unknown: That's a really good question. One thing that we did here after the fact too was 00:17:45.700 --> 00:17:51.939 SPEAKER_00: often the increase in temperatures over the summer months. We have longer daylight hours, 00:17:51.940 --> 00:17:56.980 SPEAKER_00: hotter temperatures can increase the likelihood that these incidents could occur. 00:17:56.980 --> 00:18:04.180 Unknown: Oh, like heat stress and so forth. Or just increased fatigue from working longer shifts 00:18:04.180 --> 00:18:13.299 SPEAKER_00: day over day in hot temperatures. Thank you. Okay. The second objective of SD6 is to ensure 00:18:13.299 --> 00:18:17.620 SPEAKER_00: our employees receive quality care so that they can return to work quickly if they are injured on 00:18:17.619 --> 00:18:23.619 SPEAKER_00: the job. Safety partners with integrated disability management or IDM to ensure that 00:18:23.619 --> 00:18:29.379 SPEAKER_00: quality care is provided to employees if they happen to be injured at work. In 2025, we 00:18:29.379 --> 00:18:36.500 SPEAKER_00: transitioned to a new telemed service which allows employees to receive triage support 24 hours a day, 00:18:36.500 --> 00:18:44.259 SPEAKER_00: seven days a week. We continue to have reduction in indemnity benefits over the last five years 00:18:44.980 --> 00:18:51.940 SPEAKER_00: as presented in the table here. While the number of claims in 2025 and the number of incidents per 00:18:51.940 --> 00:18:58.980 SPEAKER_00: 100 employees increased a little bit over 2024, the cost or the rates per $100 of payroll 00:18:59.779 --> 00:19:10.339 SPEAKER_00: was reduced to 40 cents. This points to a variety of factors, including, again, the fact that the 00:19:10.339 --> 00:19:15.059 SPEAKER_00: injuries our employees are experiencing are less severe and so they don't have to be away from work 00:19:15.059 --> 00:19:20.659 SPEAKER_00: as long as they might have previously. I also want to point out we received this report in 00:19:21.699 --> 00:19:28.899 SPEAKER_00: September and it reports out on data from July 2024 through June of 2025. 00:19:31.859 --> 00:19:36.419 Unknown: Question? Real quick, Emily, when I first saw this slide, I took it to mean 00:19:36.420 --> 00:19:44.259 SPEAKER_15: that because I was reading it wrong, apparently, but the 40 cents was reflective of more 00:19:45.380 --> 00:19:51.860 SPEAKER_15: people hours worked. Is that not correct? That's not correct. It's based off of the 00:19:52.740 --> 00:19:58.820 SPEAKER_00: reflective of the cost that we spend to support the employees by providing the time away. 00:19:58.820 --> 00:20:04.500 SPEAKER_00: Okay. So the incident per 100 employees is up a little bit, the number of claims up a little bit, 00:20:04.500 --> 00:20:07.380 SPEAKER_15: but the cost of those incidents is up. Got you. Thank you. 00:20:07.380 --> 00:20:08.099 SPEAKER_15: Yes. Thank you. 00:20:10.660 --> 00:20:16.259 Unknown: Okay. The third objective under SD6 is supporting our contractors to reduce potential hazards when 00:20:16.259 --> 00:20:22.259 SPEAKER_00: they're supporting us in performing high risk work. We continue to use the international suppliers 00:20:23.140 --> 00:20:30.819 SPEAKER_00: net world or ISN to verify contractor qualifications. We're able to evaluate 00:20:30.819 --> 00:20:36.419 SPEAKER_00: their safety records and performance. We take a look at contractor fatality history, 00:20:40.579 --> 00:20:47.379 SPEAKER_00: OSHA citation history, DART and total recordable incident rates, safety culture questions, and their 00:20:47.379 --> 00:20:54.019 SPEAKER_00: safety program review. And we currently have 174 contractors in the system. The second half of this 00:20:54.019 --> 00:21:00.500 SPEAKER_00: year we were also able to expand our use of that tool. We're able to track individual contractor 00:21:00.500 --> 00:21:05.059 SPEAKER_00: employees and the training that they've received so we can ensure that they're receiving the same 00:21:05.059 --> 00:21:09.619 SPEAKER_00: training our SMUD employees are. And we have found this to be specifically helpful as it relates to 00:21:10.740 --> 00:21:14.819 SPEAKER_00: substation entry training, UARP training, and veg management onboarding. 00:21:15.940 --> 00:21:21.859 Unknown: We continue to conduct a lot of site visits to validate the safety performance of these 00:21:21.859 --> 00:21:29.299 SPEAKER_00: contractors. We had over 500 visits in 2025. That was over the entire year. And we had a target of 00:21:29.299 --> 00:21:34.500 SPEAKER_00: 250. So definitely exceeded that target. And also increased the target for 2026. 00:21:37.059 --> 00:21:43.220 SPEAKER_00: And these visits focus on the contractors that are supporting business units such as PowerGen, 00:21:43.220 --> 00:21:48.740 SPEAKER_00: line, substation, facilities, vegetation management, and environmental services, 00:21:48.740 --> 00:21:56.899 SPEAKER_00: again, supporting us with high risk work. The last two objectives under SD6 are in support 00:21:57.220 --> 00:22:02.580 SPEAKER_00: of the public and community safety. We focus on tracking public incidents and injuries that result 00:22:02.580 --> 00:22:08.019 SPEAKER_00: from our operations or our equipment and seek to find ways to reduce those incidents and injuries. 00:22:08.740 --> 00:22:14.340 Unknown: Our public safety team was able to attend a variety of public events throughout the community. 00:22:14.980 --> 00:22:21.780 SPEAKER_00: And then we've also began preparing materials for first responders that is available on our 00:22:21.940 --> 00:22:28.019 SPEAKER_00: SMUD safety.com website, including information for them on how to respond to 00:22:28.579 --> 00:22:34.019 SPEAKER_00: incidents that may occur at a solar facility or battery storage facility. So a great resource for 00:22:34.019 --> 00:22:39.460 SPEAKER_00: our first responders in the community. Specific to our public safety statistics, 00:22:40.180 --> 00:22:46.740 SPEAKER_00: we had I'm sorry, there's a typo there. We had 235 incidents where a member of the public struck 00:22:46.819 --> 00:22:52.099 SPEAKER_00: a SMUD asset with a vehicle. And there were four fatalities from those events. Three of those 00:22:52.099 --> 00:22:56.740 SPEAKER_00: occurred in the second half of the year. There were three electrical contacts. Those are all 00:22:56.740 --> 00:23:02.819 SPEAKER_00: from the first half of the year. And then we had 84 dig-ins with no reported incidents. 00:23:03.380 --> 00:23:07.940 SPEAKER_00: In response to those dig-ins, our public safety team sends out notification letters to the 00:23:07.940 --> 00:23:13.620 SPEAKER_00: contractors and customers that cause the dig-ins to provide them with additional information and 00:23:13.619 --> 00:23:19.459 SPEAKER_00: make sure we prevent any future reoccurrence. And then there were no incidents or escalations 00:23:19.459 --> 00:23:28.339 SPEAKER_00: as in response to those letters. The vehicle to asset collision. So basically when people drive 00:23:28.339 --> 00:23:34.739 SPEAKER_11: into our stuff. So there's four people who died this year doing that. In 2025. And I think wasn't 00:23:34.739 --> 00:23:41.939 SPEAKER_11: it much higher in prior years? I remember hearing like six or I don't know. I mean, clearly any is 00:23:41.940 --> 00:23:50.019 SPEAKER_11: just horrible. But I mean, there's only so much we can do on this stuff. And especially when 00:23:50.019 --> 00:23:57.460 SPEAKER_11: they're stationary objects. It's like outside of wrapping them in reflective tape or I don't know. 00:23:57.460 --> 00:24:03.779 SPEAKER_11: Is there anything else we can do on those that to prevent them? We do have a ‑‑ I know we have a 00:24:03.779 --> 00:24:09.380 SPEAKER_11: big campaign, a PR campaign. Very good. Yeah. There's a committee that is looking at that 00:24:09.380 --> 00:24:15.620 SPEAKER_00: internally at SMUD. We've looked at measures in the past to try to address or prevent those types 00:24:15.620 --> 00:24:20.900 SPEAKER_00: of accidents from occurring. And there isn't any tools that we're using right now or looking to 00:24:20.900 --> 00:24:27.460 SPEAKER_00: use right now. But we'll continue to review options moving forward. Do we work with the police to find 00:24:27.460 --> 00:24:32.740 SPEAKER_00: out why people have driven into our polls? Yeah. There is an investigation so we can determine 00:24:32.740 --> 00:24:37.620 SPEAKER_00: the cause of the accident and what other extenuating circumstances might have been. 00:24:37.699 --> 00:24:41.859 SPEAKER_11: Okay. Because that might help us figure out if there's something else we can do. 00:24:41.859 --> 00:24:47.379 SPEAKER_11: Absolutely. It's just really sad. And then the dig ins we tell people all the time and we have 00:24:47.379 --> 00:24:51.299 SPEAKER_11: all kinds of ads up about don't dig, call before you dig and all that. I don't know what else we 00:24:51.299 --> 00:24:57.379 SPEAKER_11: can do there either. Right. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Just that regular outreach in campaigning that we provide. 00:25:00.179 --> 00:25:04.579 Unknown: Okay. And then on our last slide, there's a lot of data on here, a lot of information about the 00:25:04.579 --> 00:25:09.539 SPEAKER_00: programs we have as part of our safety for life program. Tonight I'm only going to focus on two 00:25:09.539 --> 00:25:16.579 SPEAKER_00: of them. Our field ergonomics program that I want to speak to first. In August we were able to launch 00:25:16.579 --> 00:25:23.059 SPEAKER_00: a new field industrial ergonomic contract with BRIOTICS Health marking a major step in reducing 00:25:23.059 --> 00:25:29.299 SPEAKER_00: soft tissue injuries and improving employee well-being. The onboarding process was a success 00:25:29.299 --> 00:25:35.859 SPEAKER_00: setting the foundation for strong collaboration and effective service delivery. BRIOTICS has 00:25:35.859 --> 00:25:41.940 SPEAKER_00: engaged with crews and the leadership through meet and greets at safety meetings, also one-on-one 00:25:41.940 --> 00:25:48.180 SPEAKER_00: assessments and evaluations and site visits for job task reviews resulting in actionable 00:25:48.180 --> 00:25:54.740 SPEAKER_00: recommendations for tools, equipment and improved body mechanics. Second, I want to highlight our 00:25:54.740 --> 00:26:02.579 SPEAKER_00: scorch program, our safely conducted observations reduce common hazards. We had a lot of positive 00:26:02.579 --> 00:26:10.740 SPEAKER_00: interactions in the second half of the year. Over 2400 office observations occurred. The top 00:26:10.740 --> 00:26:15.620 SPEAKER_00: safe observed behavior was good neck and head posture. And employees noted working with their 00:26:15.620 --> 00:26:20.980 SPEAKER_00: colleagues to make sure they had the right monitor height and distance setting. The top at-risk 00:26:20.980 --> 00:26:26.980 SPEAKER_00: behavior for that group was the hips, legs and feet posture. A lot of that was tied to not having 00:26:26.980 --> 00:26:32.740 SPEAKER_00: their chair set up correctly. So the team raised awareness around cumulative trauma from not 00:26:32.740 --> 00:26:40.500 SPEAKER_00: sitting straight. I see everybody sitting up straight in their seats here. Just the cumulative 00:26:40.500 --> 00:26:46.819 SPEAKER_00: trauma and stress that can be placed on our tendons and joints over us from that behavior as a way to 00:26:46.819 --> 00:26:53.299 SPEAKER_00: reduce it. We had over 1,000 observations of our field forces in the second half of the year. 00:26:54.500 --> 00:27:00.419 SPEAKER_00: And the two top safe observed behaviors were hand protection to minimize exposure to injury 00:27:00.419 --> 00:27:07.379 SPEAKER_00: and communication. Planning for success minimizing exposures to those hazards. The top at-risk 00:27:07.379 --> 00:27:14.099 SPEAKER_00: behaviors were having tail boards, particularly after lunch. So they put out an initiative to 00:27:14.099 --> 00:27:21.699 SPEAKER_00: ensure that regroup after the lunch break. And then the second at-risk behavior was having the 00:27:21.699 --> 00:27:28.740 SPEAKER_00: proper protection for eyes, face and skin. And so the team committed to using that proper protection 00:27:28.740 --> 00:27:35.939 SPEAKER_00: and adding extra backup pair of safety glasses so that they could prevent not having them at all. 00:27:37.299 --> 00:27:40.899 Unknown: In addition, the second quarter of the year, the scorch team initiated its first 00:27:40.980 --> 00:27:48.100 SPEAKER_00: home driver awareness observation event. This event was intended to highlight how the scorch 00:27:48.100 --> 00:27:53.140 SPEAKER_00: behaviors we do at work and our Smith driving tools that we use when we're driving our SMUD 00:27:53.140 --> 00:27:58.420 SPEAKER_00: vehicles translates and can be used when we're driving our vehicles at home. And that was a great 00:27:58.420 --> 00:28:03.300 SPEAKER_00: time of year as we were approaching the end of the year. Folks are doing more traveling related to 00:28:03.300 --> 00:28:09.460 SPEAKER_00: the holidays and other end of year celebrations. Scorch is proud of its ability to use events like 00:28:10.180 --> 00:28:16.660 SPEAKER_00: this to display the alignment that it has with SMUD's organizational commitment to safety for 00:28:16.660 --> 00:28:23.140 SPEAKER_00: life and world-class safety. So that completes my presentation for this evening. I'm happy to take 00:28:23.140 --> 00:28:29.860 SPEAKER_00: any additional questions. Do we have some? Director Brandon. I won't ask a question, but I'll just give 00:28:29.860 --> 00:28:35.380 SPEAKER_02: some praise or excellent numbers in this report. And I'm always happy to see the scorch numbers 00:28:35.460 --> 00:28:44.660 SPEAKER_02: remain high. Thank you. Thank you. And oh, yes, Director Kurth. It's not actually a question. Thank 00:28:44.660 --> 00:28:50.500 SPEAKER_05: you for the report. I'm glad to see the numbers high too. I'd like a little more information at 00:28:50.500 --> 00:28:59.140 SPEAKER_05: some point on the car pole accident. You know, what's causing that or what the incidence is there. 00:28:59.220 --> 00:29:05.620 Unknown: Just kind of doing the math in my head, that's, you know, at 20,000 bucks a pole, that's almost 00:29:05.620 --> 00:29:13.380 SPEAKER_05: four and a half million bucks. That's a quarter percent of our rate. If we could figure out some 00:29:13.380 --> 00:29:19.220 SPEAKER_05: way to reduce that, it'd be a significant savings for folks. Yes, well, I bet Frankie has some. 00:29:19.220 --> 00:29:25.860 SPEAKER_04: Frankie, we've done it at the COO. We actually, just like a vehicle being damaged, we pursue 00:29:25.859 --> 00:29:31.379 SPEAKER_04: insurance payments from those who hit our structures. So I can't tell you specifically 00:29:31.379 --> 00:29:36.099 SPEAKER_04: what percentages. It reduces it some. Yes. Quite a bit, probably. Yes, but we'd be happy to report. 00:29:36.099 --> 00:29:42.259 SPEAKER_04: We've had a program for years. We've done what we've done, reflective stripping. We've moved poles. 00:29:42.259 --> 00:29:46.259 SPEAKER_04: We've done all the analysis on poles that were hit multiple times in locations. 00:29:46.819 --> 00:29:52.419 SPEAKER_04: We used to have the SpongeBob, if you remember. I remember SpongeBob. Those around the pole. So we've 00:29:52.420 --> 00:29:57.380 SPEAKER_04: tried many ways, but the main cause, you're probably not surprised, is distracted driving. 00:29:59.140 --> 00:30:02.980 SPEAKER_04: We can certainly possibly put together. I do remember there was a big jump when marijuana was 00:30:02.980 --> 00:30:10.180 SPEAKER_05: legalized. Yeah, I don't know the connection, but it is close to 250 events a year. Pretty consistent. 00:30:10.180 --> 00:30:14.259 SPEAKER_04: That's a huge number. So we'll be having a follow-up with additional information. 00:30:14.259 --> 00:30:17.539 SPEAKER_05: I figured you had a whole bunch of work on this. I'd like to see it. Thanks. 00:30:18.259 --> 00:30:24.180 Unknown: I'm sorry, but also, the public campaigns we have are constant also. 00:30:26.659 --> 00:30:30.980 SPEAKER_11: One of the things that was interesting in my day job, we found out we started seeing all these 00:30:30.980 --> 00:30:35.940 SPEAKER_11: weird canisters coming into the hazardous waste facilities. It turns out it's nitrous oxide. 00:30:35.940 --> 00:30:40.740 SPEAKER_11: And kids are literally getting them online at Amazon. They're buying them in vape stores, 00:30:40.740 --> 00:30:44.500 SPEAKER_11: tobacco stores, and they're inhaling to the point where they literally, they're driving and they 00:30:44.500 --> 00:30:49.619 SPEAKER_11: pass out. And they just drive into people and into things. And I'm just curious if we've got 00:30:49.619 --> 00:30:54.259 SPEAKER_11: any stats, if that's starting to escalate, because there's bills to ban the sale of these things. 00:30:55.460 --> 00:31:01.619 SPEAKER_11: But there's more ways it seems to be distracted or pass out than ever before while you're driving. 00:31:02.180 --> 00:31:08.099 SPEAKER_11: And it's just, I don't know, I just think it's a lot of money, it's a lot of stress on us, 00:31:08.099 --> 00:31:12.579 SPEAKER_11: it's a lot of equipment, and people are dying. So it's something to look into. I would definitely 00:31:12.659 --> 00:31:17.220 SPEAKER_11: support getting more information on that. President Tamayo? 00:31:18.099 --> 00:31:29.859 Unknown: Yes. Well, first of all, I think it's great that we've exceeded our dark goal. That's really a good 00:31:29.859 --> 00:31:34.819 SPEAKER_03: thing. And hopefully, you know, I'm looking forward to the day when it gets down to zero. I know that 00:31:35.539 --> 00:31:42.899 SPEAKER_03: that's a really hard thing to do. But I really appreciate the shape of this curve is really 00:31:42.899 --> 00:31:50.899 SPEAKER_03: great. So I appreciate all the hard work and all the really sort of culture shift that we've managed 00:31:50.899 --> 00:32:00.179 SPEAKER_03: to achieve over the last more than a decade. And, you know, I just think that it's a great thing 00:32:00.900 --> 00:32:08.980 SPEAKER_03: for our employees to just be in a safer place. One thing I wanted to call out, I really like the 00:32:09.940 --> 00:32:16.340 SPEAKER_03: stare at the stairwell signs. I think that's really cool. And I know that we have other things 00:32:16.340 --> 00:32:22.500 SPEAKER_03: where, you know, encouraging people as they're walking through campus to pay attention to where 00:32:22.500 --> 00:32:30.100 SPEAKER_03: they're walking rather than what's on their phone. One thing I didn't see, and maybe I 00:32:30.179 --> 00:32:35.779 SPEAKER_03: missed it because you covered so many different things, but we used to mention quite a bit the 00:32:37.699 --> 00:32:44.579 SPEAKER_03: near miss, paying attention to near misses. And I'm kind of assuming we're still doing that because 00:32:44.579 --> 00:32:49.299 SPEAKER_03: it seems like it's a very valuable thing. But did you have anything to add about that? 00:32:50.099 --> 00:32:55.859 SPEAKER_00: Absolutely. Yeah, we do. Near misses is something that we continue to track. We had 67 near misses 00:32:56.419 --> 00:33:04.419 SPEAKER_00: incidents reported for the year for 2025. And do we have any way of measuring how 00:33:05.379 --> 00:33:14.419 SPEAKER_03: effective that's been as far as preventing, you know, the near miss from happening again? I don't 00:33:14.419 --> 00:33:19.219 SPEAKER_00: know that we've looked at it specifically for our organization, but there is a lot of safety data out 00:33:19.299 --> 00:33:25.700 SPEAKER_00: there that shows kind of the triangle of events and the more of those near misses that you have 00:33:26.339 --> 00:33:31.380 SPEAKER_00: correlates to fewer and fewer incidents, more serious incidents. I think Frankie has something 00:33:31.380 --> 00:33:37.460 SPEAKER_00: to add. Yes, Frankie. Yes, the reporting of near misses I think speaks to our culture. 00:33:38.259 --> 00:33:43.380 SPEAKER_04: If you feel confident actually reporting it. And also it's really important if you get to zero in 00:33:43.380 --> 00:33:48.500 SPEAKER_04: incidents, you have no incidents to examine, to review and to look at countermeasures. So the 00:33:48.579 --> 00:33:53.220 SPEAKER_04: near misses become more and more important. But we have a very strong culture that our folks feel 00:33:53.220 --> 00:33:56.819 SPEAKER_04: very comfortable reporting, hey, this just happened to me. It's pretty impressive when a 00:33:56.819 --> 00:34:02.420 SPEAKER_04: young apprentice steps up in a room of 200 people and speaks openly about what occurred. But from 00:34:02.420 --> 00:34:07.779 SPEAKER_04: Emily's point of view, they're also investigated by our staff. We call it a taproot process where 00:34:07.779 --> 00:34:12.900 SPEAKER_04: we go through and we find out what was the reason for that potential near miss occurring. And then 00:34:12.900 --> 00:34:18.179 SPEAKER_04: we produce countermeasures. We don't directly correlate those countermeasures as resulting in 00:34:18.659 --> 00:34:23.059 SPEAKER_04: zero incidents. But we're getting down to the point where we're hoping to reach zero. The next part of 00:34:23.059 --> 00:34:28.099 SPEAKER_04: Emily's presentation we'll talk about asking you for approval for the goals for the next five years. 00:34:29.219 --> 00:34:38.739 Unknown: Great. And I just also, it really struck me when I was at the East campus and I saw the sign that 00:34:38.739 --> 00:34:45.460 SPEAKER_03: says you have stop work authority. I just thought that's really cool. I think because it's right 00:34:45.460 --> 00:34:51.860 SPEAKER_03: there in orange and white and it really kind of drove it home for me how seriously we take this. 00:34:52.579 --> 00:35:00.420 SPEAKER_03: Thank you. Great. And Director Kurth, did you have another comment? No. Okay. Are there any other 00:35:00.420 --> 00:35:07.619 SPEAKER_01: comments? Yes. Paul Lau. Yeah. So I just want to say a big thank you to Emily, your team, and then 00:35:07.619 --> 00:35:13.780 SPEAKER_07: especially the executive team, Frankie and Farris. We really have done an excellent job in changing 00:35:13.780 --> 00:35:18.900 SPEAKER_07: the culture of SMUD. I mean back 15 years ago, we just have 200 people, more than 200 people heard 00:35:18.900 --> 00:35:24.340 SPEAKER_07: a year and we thought that was okay when it's not okay. So this is our drive to get to zero. I mean, 00:35:24.340 --> 00:35:30.180 SPEAKER_07: I absolutely agree with President DeMaio how the thing is that we want to get to zero. And so to 00:35:30.180 --> 00:35:35.540 SPEAKER_07: see this 90% reduction in the last decade is pretty amazing. And now we're down to the last 12. 00:35:37.940 --> 00:35:41.060 Unknown: So I really do want to say thank you. I mean, is all those things that we're doing, 00:35:41.059 --> 00:35:45.940 SPEAKER_07: changing the culture that getting hurt is not okay. Everybody should be expected to go home, 00:35:45.940 --> 00:35:49.940 SPEAKER_07: you know, hopefully better shaped than they are coming in, but at least minimum to go home and 00:35:49.940 --> 00:35:54.739 SPEAKER_07: spend time with the family. So couldn't be more proud with the team accomplished. But I'll say 00:35:55.299 --> 00:35:59.940 SPEAKER_07: big thank you to Frankie. I know your team has done a tremendous job in changing the culture 00:36:00.579 --> 00:36:08.900 SPEAKER_07: over in the field. You know, to really get over that, it's okay to get hurt. Now, we want to 00:36:08.900 --> 00:36:13.220 SPEAKER_07: make sure that no one's hurt. You know, and then when there's anything possible that can actually 00:36:13.220 --> 00:36:18.900 SPEAKER_07: put our coworkers, you know, or yourself in harm's way, you do the near miss. I think the near miss 00:36:18.900 --> 00:36:24.260 SPEAKER_07: is a huge, huge culture shift. You know, you actually see that as the more and more people we 00:36:24.260 --> 00:36:28.660 SPEAKER_07: report the near misses, our numbers start going down because now people are comfortable and say, 00:36:28.660 --> 00:36:32.260 SPEAKER_07: I don't want to see Rosanna get hurt. I don't see my colleague here hurt. This almost happened to 00:36:32.260 --> 00:36:36.019 SPEAKER_07: me and by the grace of God, we were able to say, you know, we do not get hurt, but we don't want 00:36:36.099 --> 00:36:40.019 SPEAKER_07: that to happen because you don't want to count on luck the next time not to get hurt. So I just 00:36:40.019 --> 00:36:45.780 SPEAKER_07: want to say thank you, Frankie. You're your team. Oh, and Director Fishman. I just want to say, 00:36:45.780 --> 00:36:52.179 SPEAKER_15: but Paul, it seems like 2030 is a good year for setting big goals. So maybe in addition to zero 00:36:52.179 --> 00:36:58.739 SPEAKER_15: carbon, we said zero incidents by 2030. I'm just, I'm just throwing that out there. I think that's 00:36:58.739 --> 00:37:05.460 SPEAKER_01: a good idea, Director Fishman. Well, Emily, I want to say that you and your team have done 00:37:05.539 --> 00:37:13.380 SPEAKER_01: an exceptional job. And I want to thank Frankie because I remember the days when I worked here 00:37:13.380 --> 00:37:21.619 SPEAKER_01: when safety was just not taken seriously and you were a big part of shifting that. And so 00:37:21.619 --> 00:37:30.340 SPEAKER_01: you and your team have a great guy leading things. And with that, Director Bikini, you're done. 00:37:30.500 --> 00:37:38.100 SPEAKER_01: I'm actually up next, too. Oh, you are. So I'm going to stay here. Just make sure there's no 00:37:38.100 --> 00:37:45.460 SPEAKER_00: comments. But before we go there, let's just see if we have any people online that would like to 00:37:45.460 --> 00:37:53.059 SPEAKER_01: make a comment. No, we do not. Okay. No virtual attendees. So now we will move on to item number 00:37:53.139 --> 00:38:05.699 SPEAKER_01: four, which is to discuss with possible amendment governance process GP12. And here we have Emily 00:38:05.699 --> 00:38:13.059 SPEAKER_01: and Matthew. So I was actually going to present on agenda item three, which was updating language 00:38:13.059 --> 00:38:22.420 SPEAKER_00: to strategic direction six. Okay. All right. Well, this doesn't have anything about that. But, 00:38:22.500 --> 00:38:28.740 SPEAKER_01: you know, let's do it. Okay. Thank you. So as we were just discussing, 00:38:30.500 --> 00:38:37.700 SPEAKER_00: the slide here shows the current SD6 language, which had that goal of getting to 13 or fewer 00:38:37.700 --> 00:38:47.860 SPEAKER_00: incidents by 2025. Since we met that goal, we staff are providing a proposal to update that language. 00:38:48.420 --> 00:38:51.940 SPEAKER_00: That language is shown here on this next slide. And those changes are highlighted. 00:38:52.500 --> 00:39:00.260 SPEAKER_00: So the goal that we're going to target is zero incidents by 2030. And there were a few other 00:39:00.260 --> 00:39:08.980 SPEAKER_00: editorial comments or changes suggested just to provide some clarity here. So walking through those 00:39:09.539 --> 00:39:18.179 SPEAKER_00: changes, let's see. It said injury severity incidents to severe safety incidents. We also 00:39:18.179 --> 00:39:25.460 SPEAKER_00: removed the second part of section I because it spoke to the dart labor rate ‑‑ I'm sorry, 00:39:25.460 --> 00:39:31.300 SPEAKER_00: the dart rate as opposed to the individual darts. Under contractor safety, we were suggesting 00:39:31.300 --> 00:39:39.300 SPEAKER_00: changing the ‑‑ to the plural facilities to align with the sentence structure and then update 00:39:39.300 --> 00:39:45.220 SPEAKER_00: the language under public safety to mention incidents involved as opposed to reporting 00:39:45.220 --> 00:39:50.420 SPEAKER_00: injuries to the public. So just some opportunities to clarify the language and again focus on 00:39:50.980 --> 00:39:58.580 SPEAKER_00: trying to get to zero darts by 2030. Looks good to me. How does the rest of the board feel? 00:40:01.539 --> 00:40:08.260 Unknown: Okay. Looks like it's good. Thank you. Now you really can leave. 00:40:11.300 --> 00:40:19.860 Unknown: Do we have any comments from virtual attendees? Okay. And now is item number four. And it is to 00:40:19.860 --> 00:40:28.660 SPEAKER_01: discuss with possible amendment governance process GP12 board compensation and benefits. 00:40:29.299 --> 00:40:36.980 SPEAKER_01: And our presenter is Matthew Powell, the interim director of people, services, and strategies. 00:40:38.019 --> 00:40:42.659 Unknown: Thank you, Chairman Herber. My name is Matthew Powell. I'm interim director of people, 00:40:42.659 --> 00:40:49.299 SPEAKER_14: services, and strategies. My role this evening is to share and present a little bit of an overview 00:40:49.299 --> 00:40:54.420 SPEAKER_14: of the GP12, governance process 12, which is governing board compensation and benefits. 00:40:55.220 --> 00:40:58.980 SPEAKER_14: Following my presentation, I'll be turning it back over to President Tamayo who will 00:40:59.940 --> 00:41:10.180 SPEAKER_14: for the discussion of this by the board at that. So GP12 covers board benefits and compensation. 00:41:10.180 --> 00:41:14.900 SPEAKER_14: And it requires the board to review this compensation on an annual basis. I want 00:41:14.900 --> 00:41:22.340 SPEAKER_14: to call out a specific section from the MUD Act, 11908.1. And this says that the board may adjust 00:41:22.340 --> 00:41:28.900 SPEAKER_14: compensation by no more than 5% for each calendar year following the operative date of the last 00:41:28.900 --> 00:41:33.940 SPEAKER_14: adjustment. So for this year, that means that there's the ability to increase the amount 00:41:33.940 --> 00:41:43.220 SPEAKER_14: no greater than $341 for each daily event. Or per day, I should say. It also states that the 00:41:43.220 --> 00:41:48.980 SPEAKER_14: board is prohibited from automatically adjusting compensation every year. And for context, last 00:41:49.059 --> 00:41:58.900 SPEAKER_14: year the board did do an update in July of 2025 to $325 per event up from $317, which was approximately 00:41:58.900 --> 00:42:09.380 SPEAKER_14: a 3.1% increase from the previous year. On this slide, we have a couple of tables that just show 00:42:09.380 --> 00:42:14.900 SPEAKER_14: what are some options for the board's consideration. The first one, of course, is the 5% maximum, 00:42:14.900 --> 00:42:23.539 SPEAKER_14: which would be bringing that up from $325 at the current rate to $341 for 2026. And the other one 00:42:23.539 --> 00:42:32.900 SPEAKER_14: is based on CPI for 2025, which is based on the December CPI rate, which was 2.7%. So that would 00:42:32.900 --> 00:42:42.660 SPEAKER_14: be bringing it up to $334 per event. Now, of course, the board can also choose any amount up to the max 00:42:42.659 --> 00:42:49.379 SPEAKER_14: of that $341, the 5%, that they choose to do as long as they don't go above that amount. 00:42:50.420 --> 00:42:55.940 SPEAKER_14: A couple of other notes. Any changes will be effective July 1st of 2026, which would be that 00:42:55.940 --> 00:43:01.379 SPEAKER_14: one full year from the previous change. And any change would be placed on the consent calendar at 00:43:01.379 --> 00:43:09.219 SPEAKER_14: an upcoming board meeting for a vote as well to approve. So at this point, unless any questions, 00:43:09.219 --> 00:43:12.899 SPEAKER_14: I'll turn it over to President Tumayo for discussion and conversation. 00:43:14.099 --> 00:43:23.779 Unknown: Okay. So first, I'll just invite comments from the board members as to where you stand on this. 00:43:23.779 --> 00:43:33.059 SPEAKER_03: Director Herbert. Yeah. For me, I think that, you know, a raise is justified. I know 00:43:33.779 --> 00:43:44.179 SPEAKER_01: he's showing up there 5% as the top, but I'm thinking, you know, 4% is basically 00:43:46.179 --> 00:43:52.900 SPEAKER_01: what we're going to be giving a lot of our employees. So my feeling is 4% would be good. 00:43:52.900 --> 00:44:04.740 SPEAKER_01: Director, this is it. I know we're trying to keep pace, you know, do something on a fairly 00:44:04.740 --> 00:44:09.539 SPEAKER_15: regular basis so that we don't have some huge increase down the line. That makes sense to me. 00:44:09.539 --> 00:44:15.700 SPEAKER_15: By the same token, I'm not sure that we need to do it every year. And I'm perfectly happy leaving 00:44:15.700 --> 00:44:22.019 SPEAKER_15: things where they are, revisiting next year, and, you know, at that point saying, okay, maybe we go 00:44:22.019 --> 00:44:26.739 SPEAKER_15: up to, you know, pick a number, whatever the number is. I just don't think we need to do it 00:44:26.739 --> 00:44:31.619 SPEAKER_15: every year. And I would prefer not to do it this year, frankly. But just me. 00:44:33.460 --> 00:44:39.380 Unknown: Okay. Director Sanborn. Yeah. I think when I first got on the board, 00:44:39.380 --> 00:44:46.579 SPEAKER_11: hadn't done it quite a while. It was a very big difference from previous boards that had done it 00:44:46.579 --> 00:44:51.380 SPEAKER_11: more regularly. But I do believe we should do it every year and do it usually about CPI. 00:44:51.460 --> 00:44:56.900 Unknown: Would be my normal. But I like even numbers. So 335 sounded good. Just a $10 00:44:57.780 --> 00:45:03.140 SPEAKER_11: of meeting. And remember, I just wanted the public to know a lot of us do multiple things in a day 00:45:03.140 --> 00:45:10.660 SPEAKER_11: and we do many more days than 10. So this is definitely a lot of public service, too. But 00:45:10.660 --> 00:45:16.500 SPEAKER_11: that would be where I would probably be at. Thank you. Director Rose. 00:45:17.300 --> 00:45:23.940 Unknown: I was going to be inclined to skip this year and come back to it next year since we increased it 00:45:23.940 --> 00:45:28.900 SPEAKER_02: less than a year ago. That's what I was thinking. And then re-evaluated then. 00:45:33.059 --> 00:45:39.619 Unknown: Director Bowie Thompson, do you have any comment? I could skip. But I also see 00:45:39.859 --> 00:45:46.339 SPEAKER_13: increasing small amounts. I'm more of a small amount person rather than a large amount person. 00:45:46.339 --> 00:46:00.339 SPEAKER_13: So something closer to making something even. Like 335 or even less. 330. I do think I just 00:46:00.339 --> 00:46:06.259 SPEAKER_13: have always been adverse to larger increases. So I could do zero or I could do a very small one. 00:46:06.260 --> 00:46:14.500 SPEAKER_13: Director Kirk. Thank you. I think this is the kind of thing that needs to be done regularly. 00:46:14.500 --> 00:46:21.860 Unknown: Otherwise it gets too hard when it's time to catch up. And so with that, really all the numbers 00:46:21.860 --> 00:46:29.460 SPEAKER_05: proposed, either the 2.7, the 335 or the 4%. I could support any one of those. Thanks. 00:46:29.460 --> 00:46:45.139 SPEAKER_05: Yeah. I'm in the let's do it regularly rather than taking big jumps. Just kicking the can down 00:46:45.139 --> 00:46:53.940 SPEAKER_03: the road. I think it's really almost embarrassing when you do like a big catch up. And I'd rather 00:46:53.940 --> 00:47:05.380 SPEAKER_03: do something small. And I feel pretty comfortable doing the CPI amount and also leaning towards 00:47:05.380 --> 00:47:16.980 SPEAKER_03: the mega 335 rather than stick to the 2.7. And I'd be uncomfortable doing more than the CPI. 00:47:17.460 --> 00:47:27.780 SPEAKER_03: So I guess my sense of it is that yes, it doesn't look great if we give ourselves a 20% increase one 00:47:27.780 --> 00:47:32.820 SPEAKER_15: year to catch up. That's not great. To me it looks just as bad if we give ourselves an annual 00:47:32.820 --> 00:47:40.420 SPEAKER_15: rate increase. I mean, I would I guess it's six and a half dozen a year. I would prefer to just 00:47:40.420 --> 00:47:47.780 SPEAKER_15: wait a year and then do like a we could it's 5% per year conceivably. So if we didn't do anything 00:47:47.780 --> 00:47:53.059 SPEAKER_15: this year, next year we could conceivably go as high as a 10% increase. So we're talking about 00:47:53.059 --> 00:47:58.900 SPEAKER_15: like a $5 increase, right? Or a $10 increase this year. I would just as soon put that off and do a 00:47:58.900 --> 00:48:03.059 SPEAKER_15: $15 or $20 increase next year. That's just me. That's where I'm coming from. 00:48:03.059 --> 00:48:10.980 SPEAKER_15: Director. Yes, Matt, what what would 4% be? It would be $338. 00:48:11.779 --> 00:48:17.860 Unknown: 338? Okay. I still think that's the right number because, you know, 00:48:17.860 --> 00:48:21.299 SPEAKER_01: that's what everybody's going to be getting around here, but that's just me. 00:48:21.300 --> 00:48:36.260 SPEAKER_01: Well, I think we have just sort of counting votes. We have four directors that would be in 00:48:36.260 --> 00:48:46.500 SPEAKER_03: support of 2.7 or or $335. And I know that, you know, we don't have to be unanimous, but 00:48:46.900 --> 00:48:56.420 SPEAKER_03: is there severe resistance to if we went through that? I mean, you know, so. 00:48:57.860 --> 00:49:00.579 SPEAKER_03: No, on an increase this year. That's just where I am. 00:49:02.260 --> 00:49:08.420 Unknown: Yeah, no. So you can do it, but I'll end up having to do it in the board meeting, 00:49:08.420 --> 00:49:11.780 SPEAKER_02: probably on discussion calendar. I'm sorry, I couldn't. 00:49:11.780 --> 00:49:14.579 SPEAKER_03: Probably have to do it on the discussion calendar, but it's not unanimous. 00:49:14.579 --> 00:49:29.380 SPEAKER_02: Okay. Yeah. Well, I have a sense that we'd be able to have a motion on the discussion calendar for 00:49:31.460 --> 00:49:41.539 Unknown: 335 or 330, something like that. So. Because it's pretty clear that a couple of folks 00:49:41.539 --> 00:49:43.860 SPEAKER_03: just don't want to do it, which is fine as well. So. 00:49:46.980 --> 00:49:52.099 SPEAKER_03: Are we any reason not to go forward with that? Because I don't know that we're. 00:49:54.820 --> 00:49:58.019 Unknown: Okay. All right. Thank you very much. 00:50:01.460 --> 00:50:02.980 Unknown: Thank you, George and Paul. 00:50:02.980 --> 00:50:10.659 SPEAKER_01: I did not receive any 00:50:15.539 --> 00:50:18.420 SPEAKER_01: notices. Do we have anybody? 00:50:20.500 --> 00:50:21.460 Unknown: No, no, we do not. 00:50:21.460 --> 00:50:22.500 SPEAKER_09: Virtually. 00:50:22.500 --> 00:50:23.619 SPEAKER_09: Yeah, no, we do not. 00:50:23.619 --> 00:50:24.579 SPEAKER_09: We don't. Okay. 00:50:32.980 --> 00:50:40.579 Unknown: Okay. 00:50:46.579 --> 00:50:53.059 SPEAKER_01: 13 core and key values. And so these are the. 00:50:53.460 --> 00:50:57.380 SPEAKER_01: The answers that we've gotten. 00:51:00.900 --> 00:51:06.820 SPEAKER_01: Five out of the seven of us filled this out. And looks like high compliance. 00:51:07.860 --> 00:51:18.900 SPEAKER_01: This one or the GP two has four high and one medium. Does anybody want to talk about that? 00:51:18.900 --> 00:51:27.460 SPEAKER_01: Nope. Okay. And now we're at GP four. 00:51:29.380 --> 00:51:40.660 SPEAKER_01: And. Any comments? I don't see any. And then board agendas. 00:51:41.619 --> 00:51:48.819 Unknown: Five of the board members felt there was high compliance. So that is good. 00:51:50.420 --> 00:52:01.379 SPEAKER_01: GP four. Is rather long. But let's see the score is. Okay. Finally, a comment. 00:52:02.019 --> 00:52:10.420 SPEAKER_01: Is clause H still legal and applicable given recent changes to the Brown Act? 00:52:10.420 --> 00:52:17.700 Unknown: Could you go back to H matters not on the agenda for regular meeting will not be considered by the 00:52:17.700 --> 00:52:25.860 SPEAKER_01: board at that meeting except upon determination by a majority of the board that emergency situation 00:52:25.860 --> 00:52:34.260 SPEAKER_01: exists severely impairing public health and or safety or upon a determination by two thirds 00:52:34.260 --> 00:52:41.940 SPEAKER_01: voted the board or by unanimous vote if less than two third of the members are present 00:52:41.940 --> 00:52:49.780 Unknown: that the need to take action arose subsequent to the agenda being posted or number three as 00:52:49.780 --> 00:52:55.060 SPEAKER_01: otherwise permitted under the Brown Act of the California Department code. 00:52:55.059 --> 00:53:04.900 SPEAKER_01: And so the comment is, you know, are we doing that? Is it legal and applicable? And we will 00:53:04.900 --> 00:53:09.619 SPEAKER_01: turn to our general counsel. Laura Lewis, Chief legal and government affairs officer. 00:53:09.619 --> 00:53:15.219 SPEAKER_10: So the amendments to the Brown Act earlier this year related to one of a board member may 00:53:15.219 --> 00:53:22.019 SPEAKER_10: participate remotely due to an emergency. This section H is still valid. It refers to 00:53:22.900 --> 00:53:26.980 Unknown: whether the board can take action on something that has not been placed on the agenda with the 00:53:26.980 --> 00:53:34.500 SPEAKER_10: proper 72 hours notice or 24 hours notice of special meeting. That's still valid law. 00:53:35.139 --> 00:53:42.739 Unknown: Okay. All right. So it is still legal and applicable. It looks like the next 00:53:43.139 --> 00:53:53.139 Unknown: one, we have high compliance, but there is a comment. And so we should take a look at it. 00:53:53.139 --> 00:53:59.779 SPEAKER_01: We are meeting the current language in this policy, but when we invite presenters to our meetings, 00:53:59.779 --> 00:54:08.179 SPEAKER_01: they need to provide slides that can be posted publicly on our website for viewing by the public 00:54:08.179 --> 00:54:16.259 SPEAKER_01: prior to the meeting and after the meeting. That sounds reasonable. Any comment? 00:54:18.500 --> 00:54:26.179 Unknown: A comment. I have been the strategic chair for, I don't know, 15 years, I feel like. And that this 00:54:26.179 --> 00:54:31.139 SPEAKER_13: has been a sticking point with some of our presenters. And I just don't think it's fair 00:54:31.139 --> 00:54:38.819 SPEAKER_13: to the public or to the board, really. I'm a process learner. I don't just see everything in 00:54:38.819 --> 00:54:44.739 SPEAKER_13: front of me. And I don't think it's fair to review in public that they have to get themselves here, 00:54:45.539 --> 00:54:52.019 Unknown: take screenshots with their, you know, I just don't think it's a good accessibility trend that 00:54:52.019 --> 00:54:57.940 SPEAKER_13: we've had that we've had speakers say, well, it's proprietary. Don't present. Like, if we can't post 00:54:57.940 --> 00:55:03.460 SPEAKER_13: it and we can't have people be able to review it before, during, and after, then they need to 00:55:03.460 --> 00:55:08.659 SPEAKER_13: change their message because it's not a closed session. So I just get a lot of pushback from 00:55:08.659 --> 00:55:12.579 SPEAKER_13: staff on this and people don't want to present. Well, then you need to find different speakers or 00:55:12.579 --> 00:55:16.019 SPEAKER_13: they need to present something else. It's just very strange that they're willing to 00:55:17.059 --> 00:55:23.380 SPEAKER_13: come to our meeting but don't want us to store their presentations for people who can't attend, 00:55:23.380 --> 00:55:29.380 SPEAKER_13: for whatever reason, or just want to process the information like myself later. And I don't think 00:55:29.380 --> 00:55:34.260 SPEAKER_13: it just should be for the board. I think we have these meetings a lot for the public to get 00:55:34.260 --> 00:55:41.460 SPEAKER_13: educated and to know what's going on. And it's been, I don't want to say it's battle, but it has 00:55:41.460 --> 00:55:48.579 SPEAKER_13: been quite frustrating for me that we continually have these requests from speakers to not post 00:55:49.139 --> 00:55:57.539 SPEAKER_13: their slides. So that's... Point well taken. Yeah, I agree. I agree too, because that's, 00:55:57.539 --> 00:56:02.019 SPEAKER_11: to me, the radical transparency stuff. This is for people that have been invited to come and make a 00:56:02.019 --> 00:56:06.340 SPEAKER_15: presentation, not just somebody who shows up once they're three minutes. People that know months in 00:56:06.340 --> 00:56:10.739 SPEAKER_13: advance that they're speaking. I have one speaker who was invited that he couldn't get us their 00:56:10.739 --> 00:56:16.739 SPEAKER_13: slides to like the Friday before. And that just shows someone that's not prepared. A, and B, 00:56:17.299 --> 00:56:23.699 SPEAKER_13: doing, having a shroud of its proprietary. I think they were just not prepared and using 00:56:23.699 --> 00:56:30.739 SPEAKER_13: some excuses. So I just think we should enforce timelines of submitting slides. They know well in 00:56:30.739 --> 00:56:36.259 SPEAKER_13: advance that they're coming and that there is a vetting process by both the chair and the staff, 00:56:36.259 --> 00:56:41.779 SPEAKER_13: right? And that the board, I do like to review the stuff before. I don't like showing up 00:56:42.260 --> 00:56:50.740 Unknown: just from a personal time standpoint. And then for the public, I would like it to be posted. 00:56:52.420 --> 00:56:59.140 SPEAKER_01: Does there need to be language changed? I don't know. I've been asking it for over a decade and 00:56:59.140 --> 00:57:04.019 SPEAKER_13: it hasn't changed. So that's why I put it in here. So if we can get some consensus, it's just, 00:57:04.019 --> 00:57:10.420 SPEAKER_13: I've asked and asked and asked. And so I wouldn't typically, me, I think I've only commented three 00:57:10.420 --> 00:57:17.059 SPEAKER_13: times in 19 years, but nothing has changed. So does it need to be in here? I don't know. 00:57:17.059 --> 00:57:22.500 SPEAKER_13: But maybe now that you all hear me in public, you know, we can address this in a different way. But 00:57:22.500 --> 00:57:29.860 SPEAKER_13: it just me asking staff and the CEO has not changed anything. Okay. Heidi. 00:57:29.860 --> 00:57:34.900 SPEAKER_11: Well, I'm just thinking, do we ask Paul for suggestion on this? And Laura to look at how 00:57:34.900 --> 00:57:39.059 SPEAKER_11: do we address this? Because I think it looks like we all kind of agree that if we have public 00:57:39.059 --> 00:57:44.659 SPEAKER_11: speakers coming, we should have these sites in advance and they should be posted. Is there some 00:57:44.659 --> 00:57:50.179 SPEAKER_11: reason we can't do that? Or would we change this policy? Where's the right place to do this? 00:57:54.099 --> 00:57:59.940 Unknown: Maybe they can think about it. But the staff have heard us, right? So. 00:58:00.900 --> 00:58:04.259 SPEAKER_01: Yeah. I mean, I think it's clear. Paul, do you want to say something? 00:58:04.259 --> 00:58:07.860 SPEAKER_01: Yeah. I mean, I think what it is is that we have a discussion before. 00:58:07.940 --> 00:58:14.180 SPEAKER_07: And I think 99% of the time, I think the presentation, people making presentations, 00:58:14.180 --> 00:58:19.700 SPEAKER_07: actually, the slide will be there before. And we had discussion before about this. There are some 00:58:20.500 --> 00:58:24.500 Unknown: presenters in the past that actually had said, okay, well, you know what? I'm not ready to get 00:58:24.500 --> 00:58:29.700 SPEAKER_07: the slide or not get it for the week in advance. But I think we've worked through most of those. 00:58:29.700 --> 00:58:36.500 SPEAKER_07: So I guess what it is is that at least for the last couple of times, I remember is that we actually 00:58:36.500 --> 00:58:42.019 SPEAKER_07: did that when the presenter said, I couldn't get the slide in time before the pre-brief. 00:58:42.019 --> 00:58:50.099 SPEAKER_07: I think we've actually complied. But I do have one case that I remember is about economic forecasts. 00:58:50.099 --> 00:58:55.219 SPEAKER_07: That, you know, whether they chose to do it or not, because they didn't really want the slide that 00:58:55.219 --> 00:58:59.619 SPEAKER_07: they thought was they wanted, they won't mind coming in and talk about their specific 00:59:00.739 --> 00:59:05.539 SPEAKER_07: reason what the economic forecast is going to be. And they didn't want it to be public until 00:59:05.539 --> 00:59:09.059 SPEAKER_07: they actually get here to present to the board. I think that's the only time I remember 00:59:09.059 --> 00:59:12.820 SPEAKER_07: that we couldn't get the slide ahead of time. So I guess we can certainly look at, 00:59:13.779 --> 00:59:19.059 SPEAKER_07: I don't know how in a sense is that are you going to put it in the policy piece that we would 00:59:19.059 --> 00:59:22.980 SPEAKER_07: actually always have the slides or else there will be no presentation. I guess that's one way to fix 00:59:22.980 --> 00:59:28.659 SPEAKER_07: it, that you would always have the slide, you know, at the before the pre-brief. If there's 00:59:28.659 --> 00:59:34.900 SPEAKER_07: a for if it is the outside presenter before they present, that you want the slide to be available 00:59:34.900 --> 00:59:40.740 SPEAKER_07: for the chair to review. It's primarily for the public. So in that situation you did get it to 00:59:40.740 --> 00:59:45.380 SPEAKER_13: the board the Friday before. Yes. But you didn't post it to the public. And so that was the 00:59:45.380 --> 00:59:51.139 SPEAKER_13: compromise that I made because I personally wanted to see it, but we never posted it prior for the 00:59:51.139 --> 00:59:56.900 SPEAKER_13: public. So it's more for the my issues, the public. I mean, I think we're a convenience for the rest 00:59:57.619 --> 01:00:05.220 SPEAKER_13: of us to get it before. For the public is that I feel like it's a not negotiable if at least after 01:00:05.220 --> 01:00:09.780 SPEAKER_13: they present it to the board, just okay, some people get sick or whatever, but after they 01:00:11.059 --> 01:00:17.619 SPEAKER_13: present it should be posted. Yeah, I don't, I can't remember, maybe my memory's failing. I don't 01:00:17.619 --> 01:00:23.460 SPEAKER_07: remember actually after we present it, it's not available for posting. I think we did actually 01:00:23.780 --> 01:00:28.099 SPEAKER_07: have one case if I remember that they want, they don't want to be ahead 01:00:29.300 --> 01:00:33.059 SPEAKER_07: of their presentation because they didn't want the slide to be taken out of context. 01:00:33.059 --> 01:00:42.659 SPEAKER_07: So how about we actually want to go forward, you know, and so I mean, Nancy, question for you, 01:00:42.659 --> 01:00:50.740 SPEAKER_01: do you want this in writing here or are you willing to include that question as we're 01:00:50.739 --> 01:00:57.619 SPEAKER_01: interviewing our next general manager? I'm teasing, but you know, I don't know who the 01:00:58.419 --> 01:01:05.859 SPEAKER_01: exec is that looks over the strategy committee, but that's usually where the PowerPoints are. 01:01:05.859 --> 01:01:09.619 Unknown: No, I think this is with any any presentation. So it's not just, well, yeah, 01:01:09.619 --> 01:01:14.099 SPEAKER_07: not just strategic committee. So we post all pretty much all presentations. 01:01:14.980 --> 01:01:21.299 SPEAKER_07: Can I make a suggestion? First of all, maybe we should get Eric involved in actually writing 01:01:21.299 --> 01:01:28.259 SPEAKER_15: the language, but something to the effect of, you know, we want presentations from the public 01:01:28.900 --> 01:01:34.019 SPEAKER_15: under these circumstances, people that have been invited to present, you know, a minimum of, you 01:01:34.019 --> 01:01:38.819 SPEAKER_15: know, however many days ahead of the meeting as required for the pre-brief or whatever, 01:01:38.819 --> 01:01:43.059 SPEAKER_15: and that they will be posted at the same time as the rest of the documents for that meeting. 01:01:43.699 --> 01:01:48.820 Unknown: At the discretion of the chair of the committee, if there's somebody says, look, I'm presenting 01:01:49.460 --> 01:01:52.980 SPEAKER_15: information that I want embargoed until the meeting or something like that, we can do that, 01:01:52.980 --> 01:01:57.940 SPEAKER_15: and then but then it gets posted afterwards. But if but I don't want anybody coming in saying, 01:01:57.940 --> 01:02:02.099 SPEAKER_15: well, I'm going to present to them to you, but I'm not going to I don't want you to post my slides 01:02:02.099 --> 01:02:05.779 SPEAKER_15: ever. I mean, that's ridiculous, because our meetings are open in public and 01:02:06.019 --> 01:02:13.620 SPEAKER_15: it so so they need to be posted at some point, preferably ahead of time, if they can't be ahead 01:02:13.620 --> 01:02:18.100 SPEAKER_15: of time at the discretion of the of the committee chair, they can post them that they can deliver 01:02:18.100 --> 01:02:23.940 SPEAKER_15: them up to the, you know, the day that they're going to be presented. So I've got a suggestion. 01:02:24.660 --> 01:02:31.940 SPEAKER_03: I think I think it ought to be just posted. They should be available at the pre-brief. 01:02:31.940 --> 01:02:37.139 SPEAKER_03: I don't think you need to have a subsequent decision on the chair needs to make. I mean, 01:02:37.139 --> 01:02:44.099 SPEAKER_03: things happen like that all the time. You know, whenever anybody's doing a presentation, 01:02:44.099 --> 01:02:49.300 SPEAKER_03: things come up. And why put it on the chair? It's like, we're not going to say, no, you can't do your 01:02:49.300 --> 01:02:54.740 SPEAKER_03: presentation because we've already got them scheduled. So why make it another decision? So 01:02:54.739 --> 01:03:02.419 SPEAKER_03: but I do think that that if somebody is going to be presenting to us publicly and trying to 01:03:02.979 --> 01:03:08.339 SPEAKER_03: and there may be circumstances where they're trying to convince us to think a certain way, 01:03:09.699 --> 01:03:16.979 SPEAKER_03: that definitely should be something that that is made available to the public as part of the 01:03:16.979 --> 01:03:22.979 SPEAKER_03: record of our meeting. And I don't think we should ever accept somebody making a presentation that 01:03:22.980 --> 01:03:32.260 SPEAKER_03: says, no, I'm sorry, you can't make this as part of your record. Yeah. Yeah. 01:03:35.940 --> 01:03:43.380 Unknown: So what is what is the outcome here? Well, I think we should ask Eric to come in and 01:03:44.260 --> 01:03:50.820 SPEAKER_15: look at this and we can have give him some direction on what we what this discussion was, 01:03:50.820 --> 01:03:56.420 SPEAKER_15: ask him to listen to the recording if he needs to. He will. And come back with some language. 01:03:57.140 --> 01:04:02.260 Unknown: Okay, great. Well, then let's go on to GP 13. 01:04:05.620 --> 01:04:14.900 Unknown: And that is five high five. So anybody want to make any comments? Seeing none. I think that is 01:04:14.900 --> 01:04:22.180 SPEAKER_01: the end. Do we have any people in public who want to speak? Not here. But how about virtually? 01:04:28.420 --> 01:04:36.579 Unknown: No, you're not. Okay, great. Well, then I'm now going to turn this over to our president, 01:04:37.700 --> 01:04:40.180 SPEAKER_01: Dave Tamayo to talk about the work plan. 01:04:44.900 --> 01:05:06.500 Unknown: I'm going to be out of town on the 12th of the strategic committee, so I'll be online. 01:05:06.500 --> 01:05:15.539 SPEAKER_11: Just so you know. May 12th. Yeah, I'll be back in Michigan for me. 01:05:20.980 --> 01:05:24.099 Unknown: Urban update coming up next next week. 01:05:26.820 --> 01:05:34.659 Unknown: We're I don't really have anything pulled out on here. So I did want to mention that 01:05:35.460 --> 01:05:42.980 SPEAKER_03: I will be missing the committee meeting next Tuesday. So you guys will have to carry on without 01:05:42.980 --> 01:05:54.420 SPEAKER_03: me. And we've got the resource adequacy and summer readiness coming up on May 12th, which I think 01:05:54.420 --> 01:06:03.940 SPEAKER_03: that one's always very interesting. And I'm going to be missing that particular meeting because 01:06:03.940 --> 01:06:11.860 SPEAKER_03: I'll be at the CCA conference. That got switched. I think you're looking at an old 01:06:14.900 --> 01:06:21.940 SPEAKER_12: older document on the May 12th. Oh, okay. It's not resource adequacy. 01:06:23.380 --> 01:06:30.740 SPEAKER_03: That's under the end. Okay. So when is that going to be? That's now in June, June 9th. 01:06:30.739 --> 01:06:36.019 SPEAKER_03: Okay. I do remember that message. Yeah, on May 12th, we're doing the Upper American River, 01:06:36.019 --> 01:06:42.179 SPEAKER_12: the UARP climate impacts. All right. And so do we not have any items for strategic? 01:06:45.379 --> 01:06:51.219 SPEAKER_03: On that day. On May 12th, yes. We're doing the UARP. Yeah, I think you're looking at an old one. 01:06:51.219 --> 01:06:57.539 SPEAKER_12: It's correct here on the packet. Okay. Well, like I said, okay. Upper American River 01:06:57.539 --> 01:07:14.259 SPEAKER_03: project climate impacts. Okay. I can barely read that. Sorry. All right. So we switched those two. 01:07:14.259 --> 01:07:21.300 SPEAKER_03: So the UARP was going to be in June. And then we have the reliability monitoring report 01:07:21.300 --> 01:07:32.500 SPEAKER_03: on June 10th policy meeting. And other things are kind of more routine. Looks like 01:07:34.500 --> 01:07:41.220 Unknown: we don't have anything in the parking lot. Cleaned out. Cleaned out the parking lot. Amazing. 01:07:41.860 --> 01:07:50.340 SPEAKER_03: All right. And looking forward to a general update on fusion. Hopefully it's somebody pulled a rabbit 01:07:50.340 --> 01:07:56.660 SPEAKER_03: out of a hat and we're going to have magical energy all next year. So does anybody have 01:07:56.660 --> 01:08:05.220 SPEAKER_03: anything else to add to the parking lot? Go ahead. Go ahead, Director Rose. No, I have something 01:08:05.220 --> 01:08:11.300 SPEAKER_02: outside the parking lot. Go, Heidi. Okay. I was just wondering about the land acknowledgement. 01:08:11.300 --> 01:08:21.940 SPEAKER_11: Did the ad hoc meet? Is that happening? Yeah. We're complete. Staff's complete. Frankie is going 01:08:21.940 --> 01:08:30.739 SPEAKER_01: to be setting up a meeting. And the ad hoc committee will join him and then we'll bring it to the board. 01:08:30.739 --> 01:08:34.659 Unknown: Okay. Great. Because it was off the parking lot but I hadn't heard. So I just want to make sure. 01:08:34.659 --> 01:08:43.220 SPEAKER_11: Great. Thank you. Just to mention next week at the finance and audit we'll have the solar and 01:08:43.220 --> 01:08:50.579 SPEAKER_02: storage rate update. And staff is intending to send a memo soon. So I would encourage you to take 01:08:50.579 --> 01:08:55.779 SPEAKER_02: a quick peek at that before the finance and audit committee next Tuesday. So FYI. 01:08:55.779 --> 01:09:06.179 SPEAKER_02: All right. Very good. Anything else, Mr. President? No. Thank you for that addition. 01:09:08.819 --> 01:09:15.779 SPEAKER_03: All right. Okay. The next item on the agenda is public comment for items not on the agenda. 01:09:16.340 --> 01:09:23.380 SPEAKER_01: I haven't received any cards. But have we had any requests from virtual attendees? 01:09:24.100 --> 01:09:30.659 Unknown: No, we have not. Okay. Well, we just want everyone to know that written comments received on items 01:09:31.220 --> 01:09:38.100 SPEAKER_01: not on the agenda will be included in the record if received within two hours of the end of the 01:09:38.100 --> 01:09:45.220 SPEAKER_01: meeting. And the last item on the agenda is to provide a summary of committee direction. 01:09:46.900 --> 01:09:52.420 Unknown: Staff will provide additional information on causes of carpool accidents in our prevention efforts. 01:09:53.060 --> 01:09:58.420 SPEAKER_10: Staff will place the governance process GP12 board compensation and benefits on the discussion 01:09:58.420 --> 01:10:05.300 SPEAKER_10: calendar for next week's board meeting. And the board will discuss potential changes to GP4 01:10:06.020 --> 01:10:09.140 SPEAKER_10: board committee work plan and agenda planning with Eric Douglas. 01:10:10.579 --> 01:10:16.739 SPEAKER_01: Wonderful. Seeing no other business, this meeting is adjourned. 01:10:22.420 --> 01:10:24.420 Unknown: Thank you.